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| אני מאמין | Updates from the Rav who predicted TsunamiPosted: 20/7/05 7:10 | |
| (short briefing about the this Hebrew thread that started at Jul3/2005 and this thread from Jun12/2005 and this thread from May29/2005)
Daniel had brought some interesting information from a Kabbalistic Rav in Israel, that gives lessons every Shabbat in a synagogue, and from time to time speaks about the future. This Rav, according to him, which is not known nationwide, is the only one who predicted the tsunami on time. In the same synagogue he said one day before the tsunami, that very soon something really bad is going to happen in California or in India. One day later the tsunami was reported in the news.
The following is a translation of the first post about the Rav's words, taken from ErevMoshiach forum:
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Today I heard that over Shabbos there was a regular lecture in a certain shul in central Israel by a known Kabbalist Rav (though not known nationwide).... The lecture was given to a limited audience, and the things that were said were only for this limited audience. Because of this, I can't write here all the details. But before this, I only will say that this Rav is the *only one* (as far as I know) who foresaw the tsunami exactly in time. In front of the same audience, one day before the tsunami, the Rav said that very soon something very hard will happen in India or in California! One day later we already saw the tsunami in the news....
So now I will write this that you should know that until recently this Rav spoke about the geulah and about Moshiach in a distant timeframe. Once he mentioned the year: 5769 (another 4 years from now). But it would seem that something changed his mind after the Hilula of the Rashbi (L'ag B'Omer), and in the last lecture he said that Moshiach should come within the coming year, and he based this on a hint in the verses referring to the Exodus from Egypt--from those verses we see that Moshiach comes 234 years before the year 6000 (because...the Messianic Era is before the 7000th year, and we are guaranteed by the tzaddikim that it is at least 200 years prior). Thus, as is known, when the year 5765 began we were 235 years away from the year 6000, and now we are approximately 234.4 years from the year 6000, which indicates that we apparently are very close. He didn't speak about a specific season, but on the year that it will happen, which suggests that it will be either 5765 or 5766; in any event, not more than a year.
From what I heard, the people in the shul received this with shock/excitement.
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The second post came two weeks later, talking about the clocks of the Baba Sally that were given to Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu. This came after Israeli National TV (Channel 1) had reported on the clocks in the 9 o'clock news (see video here), which when they reach the hour 12, the Geula will come. The Rav said the following info about the clocks:
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1. The silver clock is a clock of Rahamim (רחמים, mercy) as Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu said. But according to what the Rav said in the lesson, the hour in the clock now is already 12. According to what he said, the meaning of it is that the people of Israel are already deserve Geula from the Rahamim side!
2, The gold clock is indeed a clock of Din (דין, judgement). The Rav didn't elaborate on what the time on that clock. When this clock will arrive to the destined hour, the meaning will be a Nekama (נקמה, vengeance) against the evil Goyim and the Geula of Israel from the side of Din, which is the full Geula that we expect.
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Amazingly, Yaakov Nathan brought news from Eli (the wonder kid from ErevMoshiach) exactly on the same time, that Eli says that the clock had reached the hour of 12, just like the Rav said.
The third post of Daniel about words of the Rav who predicted the tsunami is as follows (also summarized here in YeranenYaakov Blog)
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A) Hitnatkut (disengagment)
The Rav said that the Hitnatkut will be carried out! Probably these word astonished the synagogue crowd that claimed it doesn't fit with other Gedolim words and promises. In response he said that this is only his opinion, not a prophecy (Daniel points that in his opinion the Rav said this just in order to avoid arguing with them)
B) The Next Stage
The Rav said that the next step after the completion of the Hitnatkut will be the beginning of the talking about our holy city Yerushalyim (Jerusalem), and handing it over ח"ו to Arabs hands. He claimed that the public debate whether to hand over Yerushlayim or not will be a very fateful debate: this debate is going to be simply "The Final Berur" (Berur = בירור, filtering the bad part from the good part)!
Apparently, in the end of this debate (maybe in the middle of it), those who would support the handing of Yerushalayim to the Arabs are those who "have no Jewish soul"!
After this stage is over, we'll reach the end, and the Geula will start.
C) Water
The Rav mentioned that according to what's written, before the coming of Moshiach we need to wait for a Para Aduma (פרה אדומה, red heifer), because of our tuma'a (טומאה, impurity). But the Rav said that we don't have to wait for the red heifer. The reason is that in the Temple Mount in Yerushalayim the water are now rising. The Rav said he saw them by himself (probably speaking of the Gihon water). He said that eventually the water will go up and will wash everything (or rise above everything or something like that), and these water will be what purify us, and we won't need Para Aduma - - - and then Moshiach will come!
D) Malachim (מלאכים, angels)
The following are statements from the Rav from a few months ago, which was before the Hilula of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai (Lag BaOmer), which means before the Rav said the Geula will be within a year, but when he thoughts it would take a few more years, so maybe this part has already been canceled. But the things are written because they seem related to the things above:
When the Temple was destroyed, there was a certain process that Malachim (מלאכים, angels) needed to go up to Shamayim (שמים, heavens) from the Temple, but what happened was that they didn't make it before the destruction of the Temple, and they were just "stuck" down - in the place of Even HaShtiya (אבן השתייה) (where ther Arabs stuck their obnoxious mosque).
The Rav said that the name of these Malachim is "Er'elim" (אראלים). He explained very seriously the following part:
We all remember that the Arabs started a few years ago a new intifada that they called something like Jerusalem-intifada or Al-Aqsa-intifada. The thing that started the whole mess at that time was that Ariel Sharon (then head of the opposition) went into Temple Mount (this happened almost on the last day of 5760: Sep28/2000, and Sharon declared there that "Every Jew has the right to visit Temple Mount"  This happened at the time that PM Barak agreed to hand over to the Arabs 95% of the territories including the holy city Yerushalayim (Jerusalem), but Arafat ימ"ש didn't agree).
The Rav said (a few months ago) that the spiritual reason for all the mess that started then was something like that: the private name of Arik Sharon is Ariel. It seems it has a big meaning (I also think that there is a meaning to the man himself). When he entered Temple Mount at that time, it was a spiritual signal for the Malachim that were stuck there, and "something" woke up with them! Then started the big mess!
The Rav added and said: After a period of not a long time from now, this Malachim will get out from the place that they were "stuck" in when the Temple was destroyed. But their exit won't be something to be seen only by those who have spirtual eyes! Everyone will see the Malachim when they go up to Shamayim!
And then the real mess will start: The Moslems will say that these were their Malachim, and this is a sign from Shamayim that they are the one who control Temple mount, and their control must continue. We will say that these were our Malachim that were stuck there since the Temple was destroyed. This debate will go on, and if the people of Israel will be determined that Yerushalyim is ours, undivided, then we will get the full Geula.
As said, these are things said from a few months ago, and maybe the're not relevant anymore.
E/F) Water/Eli
See this link from Lazer Beams of Rabbi Lazer Brodi about the water rising:
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The Gihon River mentioned in Genesis 2:13 flows under Jerusalem, directly under the Holy Temple Mount, under what today is known as the Dome of the Rock in the Al Aksa mosque. There, it's known as Siloam Spring (see Rashi on Kings I, 1:33), and flows out in the direction of Silwan (Arabic for Siloam), the Arab town directly to the South of the Temple Mount. King Hezekiah sealed off the waters of the Gihon when he was threatened by Sannherib and the Assyrians (see Chronicles II, 32:30 and Talmud tractate Brachos 10b).
According to Islamic tradition, when the waters of the Gihon begin surfacing under the Dome of the Rock, then the Jewish Messiah is fast on the way, and their downfall is imminent. Soon, very soon, there won't be any more mosques on the Temple Mount.
In recent months, several witnesses have told about water seeping out of the floor near the base of the Dome of the Rock. The Jerusalem Wakf, the Moslem religious authority, has hurried to fabricate the lie of faultry drainage causing the water seepage. All you have to do is to pick up an East Jerusalem phone book, and call any plumber at random; you'll have a 50-50 chance that he's one of the many that the panicking Wakf has summoned to stop the trickling, but to no avail. The Mufti himself knows darn well that all the plumbers in the world won't stop the waters of salvation from gushing out soon; the Siloam Pool will be the mikve where Moshiach Tzidkenu will immerse himself every morning before praying and learning.
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Rabbi Brodi also made these pictures available to better understand what's happening.
Also see ErevMoshiach scenario describing the following from the wonder-child Eli.
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the water will go all the way up above all the buildings. Jews (including non-religious Jews) and righteous non-Jews will float up and up on the water to shomayim (Heaven). "The water will be a mikvah (spiritual cleansing) to clean out our tamei (sic) from all the tamei (impure) things we did." This will take away our yetzer hara (evil inclination).
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Asked about the Rav idenitity, Daniel replied that he cannot reveal it, because the reason that the things are being said by the Rav is that they're said before a small crowd. If the Rav will know that they're being published in his name, he will stop talking freely about this subjects. However he said that this is a Kabbalist Rav who also teaches Kabbala, and one of the renowned tzadikim in our generation, from a known dynasty, recommends people to learn Kabbalah only with him. He himself learned from a renowned tzadik זצוק"ל known for his wonder making and his future sight. The lesson is not given in a Charedi (ultra-orthodox) city, because of a request by the tzadik from the famous dynasty.
Later that week, it was mentioned in a different thread that Rav Mordechai Eliyahu said similar things as Daniel's Rav about the water and Para Aduma (see video), only that the source of the water that Rav Eliyahu talked about was Shamayim and not Gihon. This is a translation of his words, from Erev Moshiach Forum:
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Regarding what we said about the red heifer, [about] the third, the seventh [days of purification]:
Moshiach will come now -- where will the third [day] come from, where will the seventh [day] come from? [In other words, purification via the process of the red heifer requires seven full days to pass, as well as a process of sprinkling the water mixed with ashes over each and every individual Jew--a very lengthy process to purify the entire Jewish people.] What are we going to do now, we won't be able to touch Moshiach? We won't be able to touch Eliyahu Hanovi? Imagine when my turn arrives...[The Talmudic sages] Abaye, Rava, Ravina, Rav Ashi will all be alive [and in need of purification]...until my turn arrives [as I will have to wait behind all the great sages of previous generations] it will be a long time.
[Therefore, to solve this logistical problem] the Holy One says, "I will make a temporary law for you." The Torah belongs to G-d, the laws are his [so He can make a temporary law if He desires]. He makes a one-time law: "I will pour upon you pure water and you will be purified" (Ezekiel). The heavens will open up...
It is written that when Hashem created the world, the water was split--half was placed above, half was placed below....When Moshiach will come Hashem will open up the heavens and "I will pour upon you pure water and you will be purified". We won't need third, the seventh [days], we won't need the ezov, we won't need the red heifer...the Holy One says "One time I will permit you [full purification without the seven day waiting and sprinkling process]. Afterwards if you become impure you'll need the red heifer, but now I will make it easy for you: "I will pour upon you pure water and you will be purified" and it should be Hashem's will that it happen very speedily in our time, Amen!
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Later in that thread, sources for Rav Eliyahu's words have been found from Malbim on Yechezkel, Zohar B 266B, Zohar C 42A, Zohar C 69B, Razi'el HaMalach.
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Malbim says there that para aduma is only the way of purification in the past (he calls the para aduma water: "mayim teme'im" because it is of a dead animal), but "in future to come" the purification will be done not by these "mey nida" but by other water which are mayim tehorim
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| | yaak | water used to purifyPosted: 22/7/05 19:10 | |
| | Quote: | | Later in that thread, sources for Rav Eliyahu's words have been found from Malbim on Yechezkel, Zohar B 266B, Zohar C 42A, Zohar C 69B, Razi'el HaMalach. |
It's also in a 2-line paragraph in Yalkut Shimoni on Hukat near the beginning of the Parasha.
| Quote: | | והיתה לעדת בני ישראל למשמרת, לפי שבעולם הזה ישראל מיטמאין ומיטהרין על ידי כהן אבל לעתיד לבוא הקב"ה עתיד לטהרן ומה טעם וזרקתי עליכם מים טהורים וטהרתם וגו |
yaak
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| | אני מאמין | [brief] more from the Rav who foresaw the tsunamiPosted: 25/7/05 5:56 | |
| Daniel has updated us again in the Hebrew forum about what the Rav mentioned in the starting post said last Shabbat.
He said that the Rav had told them that from Shamayim (שמים, heavens) they revealed to him that the only reason the Geula (גאולה, redemption) is not arriving yet is the lack of unity within the people of Israel. Furthermore, they asked him from Shamayim to talk about the subject of unity in Israel, and he asked for everyone to talk about it.
Daniel wrote that he was afraid to write such things as a Rav talking with Shamayim in this generation, because people might not believe it, because almost no one talks this way in our generation. However, to emphasize who this Rav was and still not identify him by name, he added to what he said before that the Rav "himself learned from a renowned tzadik זצוק"ל known for his wonder making and his future sight", that the renowned Tzadik that was the teacher of the Rav was the renowned Rav Nachmani, known for his accurate future sight.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | RE: [brief] more from the Rav who foresaw the tsunamiPosted: 25/7/05 6:06 | |
| | quoting אני מאמין: | | the renowned Tzadik that was the teacher of the Rav was the renowned Rav Nachmani |
What can you tell us about this Rav Nachmani?
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| | אני מאמין | RE: [brief] more from the Rav who foresaw the tsunamiPosted: 25/7/05 6:32 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting אני מאמין: | | the renowned Tzadik that was the teacher of the Rav was the renowned Rav Nachmani |
What can you tell us about this Rav Nachmani? |
Rav Nachmani was mentioned in the Hebrew forum, and also here in the post about North Korea. The following was taken from there:
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The user מרדכי היהודי replied with a piece of information of his own. The following translation is taken from Yeranen Yaakov blog:
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Anyways, the poster "Mordechai Hayehudi" here explains that there was a rabbi in Israel named Rav Levi Sa'adiah Nahmani ZTVK"L, who had a background in accurate predictions. He predicted the 6-day war to the day 3 days before it happened while living in Morocco. He predicted the Yom Kippur war to the month. He is definitely someone with Ru'ah Hakodesh.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | Posted: 25/7/05 9:15 | |
| One of the things that I read above about the malachim trapped in the Temple Mount being released reminded me of the following Maaseh that I heard said in the name of the holy Maggid of Mezritch:
The Maggid taught that in the end of days there will be another test of faith as there was by Har Carmel in the days of Eliyahu - however this time, the fire will come down on the 'altars of the Baal'. Perhaps this parallels the ascending angels who the Muslims will think are ascending as a result of their offering to Allah??
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| | Yaakov Nathan | MidrashPosted: 25/7/05 11:39 | |
| | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | One of the things that I read above about the malachim trapped in the Temple Mount being released reminded me of the following Maaseh that I heard said in the name of the holy Maggid of Mezritch:
The Maggid taught that in the end of days there will be another test of faith as there was by Har Carmel in the days of Eliyahu - however this time, the fire will come down on the 'altars of the Baal'. Perhaps this parallels the ascending angels who the Muslims will think are ascending as a result of their offering to Allah?? |
And Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, “The Holy Temple is ours - take gold and silver, and leave the Temple to us.”
And the Arab king will say “You have no claim to this Temple. However, if you will first choose an offering, as you did in days of old, and we will also present an offering. And we will all become part of the nation whose offering is accepted.”
Israel will present their offering and it will NOT be accepted, because Satan will prosecute us in front of Hashem.
And the sons of Kedar will present their offering and it will be accepted, as the verse states: “All the sheep of Kedar will gather together to you.”
Then, the Arabs will say to Israel, “Come, believe in our faith.”
And Israel will answer, “We will kill, or be killed, but we will not Deny the Essence.”
Then, swords will be unsheathed, bows will be drawn, arrows will be fired, and corpses will be felled from the Gate of Efraim till the Gate of Pinah. And Nechemiah (most probably, Mashiach ben Yosef) will be among those that are killed.
Those who escape will flee to the desert of Moav and to the land of the Sons of Amon. There, the Israeli refugees will remain, and Hashem will perform miracles for them there, and a wellspring will emerge from the depths, etc., and they will eat the roots of thorn bushes, for forty five days. At the end of forty five days, Eliyahu and King Mashiach will sprout from there....
This midrash is brought by the Chofetz Chayim in his sefer Tzipisa L'Yishua.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: MidrashPosted: 26/7/05 2:04 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | One of the things that I read above about the malachim trapped in the Temple Mount being released reminded me of the following Maaseh that I heard said in the name of the holy Maggid of Mezritch:
The Maggid taught that in the end of days there will be another test of faith as there was by Har Carmel in the days of Eliyahu - however this time, the fire will come down on the 'altars of the Baal'. Perhaps this parallels the ascending angels who the Muslims will think are ascending as a result of their offering to Allah?? |
And Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, “The Holy Temple is ours - take gold and silver, and leave the Temple to us.”
And the Arab king will say [...] At the end of forty five days, Eliyahu and King Mashiach will sprout from there....
This midrash is brought by the Chofetz Chayim in his sefer Tzipisa L'Yishua. |
Yashar koach, very interesting source. I have read however that Moshiach Ben Yosef will not need to die if we will merit to zachu achishena, I will have to try to re-locate the source for this idea.
Also, I believe that the Rambam explains in his hakdamos to the Mishnaos that any negative prophecy does not need to be fulfilled, if the people do teshuvah to annul the potential decree. Iy'H maybe we will be zoche that HaShem will accept the offering of His nation Israel averting the potential need for war.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | RE: MidrashPosted: 26/7/05 3:39 | |
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Yashar koach, very interesting source. I have read however that Moshiach Ben Yosef will not need to die if we will merit to zachu achishena, I will have to try to re-locate the source for this idea. |
In Kol Hator (attributed to the main talmid of the Gra) it says:
These are the seven major principles connected with the approach of the “Footsteps of the Moshiach,” based upon “on each stone were seven eyes” (Zechariah 3:9), according to Rabbeinu HaGR”A.
a.) Yosef is still alive: A fundamental of Rabbeinu was “Yosef is still alive,” meaning that the Moshiach Ben Yosef is still alive and will live, and will annul the decree to be killed by the evil Armilus, for as it is said: all aspects of the beginning of the redemption are dependent upon him.
The decree will annulled as a result of the extension of the exile, by afflictions that Moshiach Ben Yosef will suffer and the sickness he will endure, and as a result of the deeds he will perform with great devotion, such as gathering in exiles, his mission. The messianic pangs and afflictions connected with Eretz Israel will also contribute, as will our daily prayers for the life and success of Moshiach Ben Yosef. Furthermore, those who occupy themselves with gathering in the exiles lighten the suffering of Moshiach Ben Yosef during the Footsteps of the Moshiach.
The decree of the death of Moshiach Ben Yosef will be nullified by dividing it into small parts, as in the parable in the Midrash:
Once there was a king who became angry with his son and swore to throw a big stone at him. Later he changed his mind and had compassion on him. However, in order to fulfill his vow [but not kill his son] he broke the big stone into many smaller pieces and threw these at his son, one by one. The son was not killed, but he nevertheless suffered from the small stones.
These are the “Pangs of the Moshiach”: the suffering occurs over time, together with the 999 footsteps of the Moshiach in such a way that the decree is divided into 999 small parts. Nevertheless, help will come as the posuk says, “a time of trouble it is for Ya’akov,” (Yirmiyahu 30:7), from which he will be saved.
As pointed out elsewhere, the gematria of "a time of trouble" for Yaakov is תשסה (this year).
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| | Rash_ | Yaakov NathanPosted: 26/7/05 4:14 | |
| | Quote: | | And Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, “The Holy Temple is ours - take gold and silver, and leave the Temple to us.” [...] those who escape will flee to the desert of Moav and to the land of the Sons of Amon. There, the Israeli refugees will remain, and Hashem will perform miracles for them there, and a wellspring will emerge from the depths, etc., and they will eat the roots of thorn bushes, for forty five days. At the end of forty five days, Eliyahu and King Mashiach will sprout from there.... |
Wait a minute, didn't the Lubavitcher Rebbe Shlita say that this and many other situations won't happen because all of the sufferings wev'e gone through over the years substitute them?
Thats what I thought.
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| | אני מאמין | RE: Yaakov NathanPosted: 26/7/05 4:32 | |
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Wait a minute, didn't the Lubavitcher Rebbe Shlita say that this and many other situations won't happen because all of the sufferings wev'e gone through over the years substitute them?
Thats what I thought. |
Allow me to answer you. If you take a deeper look in the words of the opening aritcle, you'll see that before talking about the Malachim thing, Daniel said the following:
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The following are statements from the Rav from a few months ago, which was before the Hilula of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai (Lag BaOmer), which means before the Rav said the Geula will be within a year, but when he thoughts it would take a few more years, so maybe this part has already been canceled. But the things are written because they seem related to the things above: |
I believe they were canceled. But you never know. If you just take a look over what's happening here (in Israel), you'd see that we're still suffering a lot from what our Sages told us.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: MidrashPosted: 26/7/05 7:19 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting Aharon Benjamin: |
Yashar koach, very interesting source. I have read however that Moshiach Ben Yosef will not need to die if we will merit to zachu achishena, I will have to try to re-locate the source for this idea. |
In Kol Hator (attributed to the main talmid of the Gra) it says:
These are the seven major principles connected with the approach of the “Footsteps of the Moshiach,” [...] As pointed out elsewhere, the gematria of "a time of trouble" for Yaakov is תשסה (this year). |
Fascinating stuff! Thanks very much - I see that this also corresponds well with one of the footnotes from the other article that you posted on the Moshiach Ben Yosef thread:
[17]. The battle of Gog and Magog (see above, Appendix I, note 2) is another of the complex issues of the Messianic redemption. In fact, an authoritative tradition from the disciples of the Baal Shem Tov states that the extraordinary length of the present severe galut has already made up for the troubles of that battle and the trauma of the death of Moshiach ben Yossef, so that these will no longer occur; see R. Shemuel of Sochachev, Shem MiShemuel, Vayigash, s.v. Vayigash 5677 (s.v. venireh od, p. 298bf.).
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| | BK | SourcesPosted: 26/7/05 14:07 | |
| I am far from a sceptic of such things but why is it that the Rav is never named when many of these things get brought up? Surely it will lend more legitimacy to what is said and will make it more believable!
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| | Rashi | Posted: 27/7/05 3:34 | |
| Why wouldn't the Tzaddik not show his powers of prophecy in order to help the Jews?
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| | רפאל | RE: MidrashPosted: 29/7/05 11:15 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | One of the things that I read above about the malachim trapped in the Temple Mount being released reminded me of the following Maaseh that I heard said in the name of the holy Maggid of Mezritch:
The Maggid taught that in the end of days there will be another test of faith as there was by Har Carmel in the days of Eliyahu - however this time, the fire will come down on the 'altars of the Baal'. Perhaps this parallels the ascending angels who the Muslims will think are ascending as a result of their offering to Allah?? |
And Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, “The Holy Temple is ours - take gold and silver, and leave the Temple to us.”
And the Arab king will say “You have no claim to this Temple. However, if you will first choose an offering, as you did in days of old, and we will also present an offering. And we will all become part of the nation whose offering is accepted.”
Israel will present their offering and it will NOT be accepted, because Satan will prosecute us in front of Hashem.
And the sons of Kedar will present their offering and it will be accepted, as the verse states: “All the sheep of Kedar will gather together to you.”
Then, the Arabs will say to Israel, “Come, believe in our faith.”
And Israel will answer, “We will kill, or be killed, but we will not Deny the Essence.”
Then, swords will be unsheathed, bows will be drawn, arrows will be fired, and corpses will be felled from the Gate of Efraim till the Gate of Pinah. And Nechemiah (most probably, Mashiach ben Yosef) will be among those that are killed.
Those who escape will flee to the desert of Moav and to the land of the Sons of Amon. There, the Israeli refugees will remain, and Hashem will perform miracles for them there, and a wellspring will emerge from the depths, etc., and they will eat the roots of thorn bushes, for forty five days. At the end of forty five days, Eliyahu and King Mashiach will sprout from there....
This midrash is brought by the Chofetz Chayim in his sefer Tzipisa L'Yishua. |
This refers to the second part of Milchemet Gog v'Magog in 5794. Note that the Midrash speaks of Arabs (and not Edom) and about an existing Temple. The Temple will be rebuilt after the defeat of Edom in the first part of Gog v'Magog (5782).
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: MidrashPosted: 31/7/05 8:37 | |
| | quoting רפאל: | | ...This refers to the second part of Milchemet Gog v'Magog in 5794. Note that the Midrash speaks of Arabs (and not Edom) and about an existing Temple. The Temple will be rebuilt after the defeat of Edom in the first part of Gog v'Magog (5782). |
From where are you pulling these numbers out of thin air after the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach - has declared as a matter of prophecy that "LAltar LeGeulah" and "hineh zeh Moshiach Bah!" - not to mention the statements of Rav Mordechai Eliyahu, Rav Kaduri and the Gerrer Rebbe etc. etc. ?!
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| | YakovMoshe | hashgacha protis with 9th of Av 3830Posted: 1/8/05 5:36 | |
| Unfortunately, we know that the 9th of Av 3830 was the Churban (haRacham-an letslan). But according to a Hebrew-English calendar program "Kaluach 2" it says that the date 9 Av 3830 occured on a SHABBOS. It was parshas Devarim and was Shabbos Chazon. It is well-know that HaSh-em prepares the refuah before the makka. On the night of Shabbos Chazon we get a glimpse of the Third Holy Temple. Did that occur that year? Shabbos evening was before the destruction.
... food for thought
yakov moshe
I've heard that to correct the sin of sinas chinom we need to do ahavas chinom. ... but how in practical ways?
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| | Yaakov Nathan | R' Lazer Brody Interview w/MekubalPosted: 2/8/05 1:54 | |
| From R' Lazer Brody's website today, 25 Tammuz (August 1):
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Ashdod is blessed with tzaddikim (exceptionally pious) and talmidei chachomim (scholars). Rabbi BT is both a tzaddik and a talmid chochom, who stays far away from the public eye. 70 years old and Moroccan born, Rabbi BT is a genius in Kabbala who devotes 20 hours a day to prayer and Torah study, yet looks like the simplest human on earth. He barely speaks, but when he does, he's quoting Talmud or Zohar. With Hashem's help, I was able to able to exchange a few words with Rabbi BT earlier today.
Lazer: Rabbi BT, what's the spiritual message behind the government's disengagement plan?
Rabbi BT: This is a terrible decree against all the entire people of Israel. Gush Katif is the sacrificial lamb (kapara, in original Hebrew). All the great rabbinical sages of the generation - Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu, Rabbi Shlomo Amar, Rabbi Elyashiv - all have forbidden the destruction of Jewish settlements, yeshivot, mikvas, and synagogues.
Lazer: Why doesn't Sharon listen to them?
Rabbi BT: He can't; he no longer possesses free will. The situation resembles that of Pharoah. But, Hashem will utilize Sharon to implement Divine will.
Lazer: Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu Shlit'a has said repeatedly that there won't be a disengagement. On the other hand, one of Rabbi Levi Nachmani's (of blessed memory, a pious and scholarly Kabbalist from Ramot, Jerusalem who passed away several years ago) leading pupils has said that there will be a disengagement in Gaza, and that the real fight will be for Jerusalem.
Rabbi BT: I am nothing but dust of the earth, and I certainly cannot contradict a single word that comes out of Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu's holy mouth, but the Zohar says emphatically that the moment of truth for the Jewish people will be Jerusalem. In my humble opinion, the settlements of Gush Katif and the exile of the thousands of righteous brave families that live there is only a tactic of diversion to conceal the real designs of the weak leaders who, rather than fearing the Lord, fear the foreign leaders who are plotting against the Jewish people. Even though I pray that the decree against Gush Katif will be rescinded, I think it will happen. Gush Katif is miniature compared to the test of faith that awaits us.
Lazer: You mean Jerusalem, Rabbi BT?
Rabbi BT: Yes. The world will try to take it from us. Few Jews will remain loyal and steadfast in their belief (emuna, in the original Hebrew). Many will think Hashem has forsaken us, G-d forbid. But, by virtue of those loyal few who unshakingly cling to their faith in Hashem, Moshiach will come and evil will be destroyed, G-d willing. The test of faith is only beginning...
Lazer: Rabbi BT, a lot of people have agreed to say Perek Shira for 40 days straight in behalf of Gush Katif. If the disengagement does materialize, they'll be sorely disappointed. How can I encourage them?
Rabbi BT: When a child asks a father for something, the father is allowed to say no. Our Holy Father in Heaven is no different. We must strengthen ourselves with the firm belief that everything He does is for the ultimate best. As for prayer, 40 consecutive days of Perek Shira is a powerful spiritual weapon. Prayer never goes to waste. If Hashem decides not to use those prayers to save Gush Katif, He may very well use them to save Jerusalem. Lazer, urge anyone who heeds your voice to keep on praying. My own wife was up until 4 a.m. this morning saying the entire Tehillim (Book of Psalms) in behalf of the Jewish settlers, both in Gaza and in the Shomron. Don't ever give up hope. Pray and Torah are the lamb's only answers to the seventy wolves (lamb is allegorical for Israel, the seventy wolves symbolize the nations of the world - LB).
Lazer (now on Rabbi BT's front doorstep in a dilapidated apartment building filled mostly with low-income immigrant families): Thank you, Rabbi, and may Hashem keep you strong!
Rabbi BT: Together with you and all the people of Israel, amen! |
http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_beams/...ew_wi.html
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| | רפאל | RE: R' Lazer Brody Interview w/MekubalPosted: 3/8/05 6:44 | |
| The way to the redemption is like the trajectory of a ball in a golf game which at the end of its long travel almost almost enters the hole. Though it does not enter, its encounter with the hole changes its course in such a way that it continues into the direction of a tree, bounces back and enters the hole.
Despite the fact that we are very very close to the hole, we will miss it. Many Tsaddikim feel how close we have come to our destination, and they are right, but they do not see that this is only the case with respect to distance, not with respect to time. There is still a short path to go.
The Tsaddik is right. Indeed, the struggle will be about Yerushalayim. But that is not now, that is the tree. Therefore, do no believe in those whose premise is that the end is already here. In summary, the Tsaddik is not right.
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| | Yehoshua | RE: R' Lazer Brody Interview w/MekubalPosted: 3/8/05 9:07 | |
| [quote="רפאל"]| quoting Yaakov Nathan: | From R' Lazer Brody's website today, 25 Tammuz (August 1):
Despite the fact that we are very very close to the hole, we will miss it. Many Tsaddikim feel how close we have come to our destination, and they are right, but they do not see that this is only the case with respect to distance, not with respect to time. There is still a short path to go. |
You are right and you are also not right. We can see from the Torah that one decision or action from one individual can change how things unfold. Like with Moshe Rabeinu and the rock. If he would have spoken to the rock things would have happend faster. Instead the jews spent an additional 39 years in the birthpangs of redemption.
The same is true now. The tzadikim know that the time is right for redemption. They like Moshe know that the shechina is here even though it is not 100% revealed. If we make the right choices the short path of time you speak about may not be needed.
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| | רפאל | RE: R' Lazer Brody Interview w/MekubalPosted: 3/8/05 14:01 | |
| | quoting Yehoshua: | | quoting רפאל: | | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | From R' Lazer Brody's website today, 25 Tammuz (August 1):
Despite the fact that we are very very close to the hole, we will miss it. Many Tsaddikim feel how close we have come to our destination, and they are right, but they do not see that this is only the case with respect to distance, not with respect to time. There is still a short path to go. |
You are right and you are also not right. We can see from the Torah that one decision or action from one individual can change how things unfold. Like with Moshe Rabeinu and the rock. If he would have spoken to the rock things would have happend faster. Instead the jews spent an additional 39 years in the birthpangs of redemption.
The same is true now. The tzadikim know that the time is right for redemption. They like Moshe know that the shechina is here even though it is not 100% revealed. If we make the right choices the short path of time you speak about may not be needed. |
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Your approach is well-founded, but in my humble understanding we missed all opportunities to change course to "hit the hole". Rather, things will be opposite: the close encounter will make us do Teshuva. What was in the days of old will come back, even better than it ever was: We will have the Sanhedrin, Shmita, Yovel, Shlemut HaAretz, Korban Pesach, Beit HaMikdash. And only when all that is in place, we will reach our destination (indeed, Tikun HaSofi).
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| | Asaf | Your opinion?!Posted: 3/8/05 15:37 | |
| | quoting רפאל: | | Your approach is well-founded, but in my humble understanding ... |
If you were truly humble you would not place yourself at the table with tzaddikim yereim v'shleimim! There are legitimate disagreements between tzaddikim, such as they say between Dovid and Shaul, etc. But we of miniscule perception are warned to keep out of matters we don't truly understand, no matter how many sefarim we read!
You should apologize to Rav B.T. for the chutzpa of challenging his perceptions.  And you should probably apologize to us on the forum for inflicting such narishkeit on us.
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| | A Simple Jew | We can ALL learn a lessonPosted: 3/8/05 16:11 | |
| Asaf, what you write here sounds like false humility to me. We are to walk humbly with Hashem. True humility is understanding and living and acting as if our Creator rules and reigns over us. It is not to say to oneself or to others, "Oh, I am as low as a worm and as nothing before all these greater beings."
You are not the first to jump so fast to the perceived slight of a tzaddik's honor. A true tzaddik would be appalled that you have spoken with such meanness to a fellow Jew on his behalf. Please learn from the following:
THERE IS NO JEALOUSY FOR THE NAME OF G-D AND INSTEAD EVERYBODY WORRIES ABOUT HIS ...HONOR
This is what the holy Rabbi Yehonathan Eyebeshutz, author of Yearot Devash writes there (Derush 15): “Due to our many sins, the jealousy and zealousness due to G-d have disappeared, they are turned upside down and in their place the honor ... of the people dominate. G-d forbid if someone comes and argues or diminishes the honor of any Rabbi or a leader of a congregation ..., they will run after him and persecute him until the end. But if on the other hand someone comes and damages or diminishes the honor of the Torah and he raises his hand against the Torah of Moshe, they will only shut their mouth. Even the good and pious people will only go so far as to say about that person: “May his name be blotted out”. But in this case no one will suggest to persecute him and run after him to humiliate him or cause him shame. And this constitutes the length of our exile, because no one is jealous for the Jealousy and Honor of G-d.
There is no dishonor in any difference of opinion lishma Torah, in my humble opinion. 
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| | Manny | Posted: 4/8/05 4:02 | |
| "the Rav said that very soon something very hard will happen in India or in California!"
Wow, great prediction. Sounds exactly like the sort of vague generalizations that TV psychics (fakes) make.
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| | Moshiach Now! | 'Sharon will be killed by Arabs - soon!'Posted: 5/8/05 1:26 | |
| A righteous humble Jew who I believe is a 'tzadik nistar' said just an hour ago that Sharon will be killed by Arabs soon. The answer to the question how soon was 'VERY soon'. When he was asked whether Sharon is Moshiach Ben Yosseph he said clearly 'No'.
My own comment: maybe this will be carried out as a revenge for today's killing of 4 Arabs in Israel by an Israeli soldier.
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| | דניאל | Updates from the Rav who predicted Tsunami (9/24)Posted: 22/8/05 2:00 | |
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Now that the Hebrew forum closed I'm posting here, if you don't mind.
According to my source, the rabbi said that the next stage (Jerusalem) will take place very fast (he mentioned Rice's statements urging Israel for more expulsions). He didn't talk about the rest of the settlements in Judea and Samaria, only about Jerusalem. He mentioned that the news talked about the Arabs preparing all their rockets in Ramalla to target Jerusalem. He described a situation that will happen very soon where the American army will be here (in Israel), and also from all of Europe. He also said that the Yishmaelim will also be here. A little vague here - my source didn't understand whether they all come for a war or something else (such as expelling Jews from their homes; "peacekeeping"; or anything else) - all he understood is that they will be present here soon one way or another.
The rabbi said that the situation in Jerusalem will be according to him "5000 times" worse than what happened in Gush Katif, and the people who will remain there after all the troubles will be called holy (quoting Yesha'ayahu chapter 4 verse 3): "והיה הנשאר בציון, והנותר בירושלים, קדוש ייאמר לו".
He said this is the big test in faith. No matter in Jerusalem or not - many will fail the test. He stressed that we all need to strengthen our faith very much.
He said that the reason that those from the religion of Esau will come to Jerusalem is because מזלייהו חזי [the soul sees on a level above consciousness -- YN] that the truth is about to be revealed in the world. Therefore they will try to desecrate anything holy in Jerusalem, even the holiest places, with their tum'aa.
After they will harm Jerusalem, haShem will go and fight them himself, and then Moshiach will come.
That's all I heard. Very sad in my opinion - especially in this hard time. I have a feeling that he will elaborate on this matter in the coming weeks because there are many things that are unclear.
אפילו חרב חדה מונחת על צוארו של אדם אל ימנע עצמן מן הרחמים.
עושה שלום במרומיו הוא ברחמיו יעשה שלום עלינו ועל כל עמו ישראל ואמרו אמן.
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| | A Simple Jew | Blood will flow like waterPosted: 22/8/05 8:43 | |
| The events in Gaza and now what is beginning to transpire in Sa-Nur and Chomesh are misleading the world into thinking that taking Jewish land from the Jews is like taking candy from a baby.
I'm here to tell you that rivers of blood will flow over Jerusalem...THEIR blood!
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| | Isaac | Ask him about EliPosted: 22/8/05 12:02 | |
| Could someone ask him about Eli?
You said that he takes questions, right? Maybe someone could ask him about the six year-old boy in New York, what he thinks.
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| | ח.ד--venisss | Posted: 22/8/05 23:51 | |
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לדניאל היקר
נפתח פורום חדש בעברית במקום זה הישן שנסגר.
בוא תצטרף אלינו. אין ספק שנוכחותך שם תועיל מאוד.
אז קדימה הנה הקישור לפורום החדש של אחרית הימים, הכנס הרשם ותעדכן את כולנו כי לא כולם מבינים אנגלית רהוטה.
תודה מראש ח.ד--venisss
http://hydepark.hevre.co.il/hydepark/forum.asp?forum_id=14880
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| | Chaya | translatePosted: 23/8/05 0:52 | |
| Can someone please translate the previous post - I can only make parts of it out - thanks:)
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| | Dvir N. | Posted: 23/8/05 0:53 | |
| דניאל welcome to the English forum, I look forward to future post.
Thanks,
Dvir N.
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| | דניאל | RepliesPosted: 23/8/05 1:49 | |
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Isaac: About asking him about Eli: the lesson is in Shabas and I can't go there in Shabas. My source is very shy, and I have about 2000 questions that I want him to ask - but he's too shy. לא הביישן למד
venisss: Thanks but no thanks, I have reasons for writing here and not there.
Chaya: Venisss just asked me to write in the new Hebrew forum which she gave link to.
Dvir: Thank you very much!!! I'm not new here, but my posts here are new, I'm glad you like them.
And finally Yaakov Nathan: Thanks for giving an explanation for "מזלייהו חזי". I had no idea how to translate it...
אפילו חרב חדה מונחת על צוארו של אדם אל ימנע עצמן מן הרחמים.
עושה שלום במרומיו הוא ברחמיו יעשה שלום עלינו ועל כל עמו ישראל ואמרו אמן.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | What about the Malachim?Posted: 23/8/05 5:02 | |
| Daniel,
Perhaps you or your friend knows how this is supposed to fit in with what you posted previously, on the Hebrew forum?
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The Rav said this several months ago (before Lag B'Omer, when he was holding that the geulah was several years away). So perhaps this is no longer applicable.
In the time that the Bais Hamikdash was destroyed, there was a process whereby Malachim [angels] would need to arise to Shomayim from the Bais HaMikdash via korbanos [sacrifices] (details not provided here). Those that didn't manage to go up before the Bais Hamikdash was destroyed were "caught" below. In the place of the Even Shesiya (Foundation Stone, where the mizbeach [altar] was placed, according to some opinions). This is where the Muslims built their dome.
The Rav said that the name of these Melachim is "Arelim". He explained this with great seriousness. He said that spiritual reason for the latest Intifada (called by the Arabs the "Al Aksa Intifada", Al Aksa being the Mosque they built on the Temple mount) was connected to Ariel Sharon's first name, that there is some great meaning to "Ariel" going up to the Har Habayis [Temple Mount], that it was a sign to the malachim there which "awakened" something in them. And this is when the whole Intifada began.
The Rav added that not too far from now these malachim will go out from the place where they are "caught" since the chorban [destruction of the Temple]. But this will not be something that will only be seen by those with "spiritual eyes", but everyone will see these malachim at the time they ascend to Heaven.
That's when things will really begin--the Muslims will say that these were the malachim that their worship generated and is a sign from Heaven that they are the rightful guardians of the Temple Mount and that their guardianship must continue. We will say that these are the malachim that were caught there since the chorban. This conflict will continue, and if the Jewish people will be strong in their opinion that Yerushalayim is ours and is not to be divided, then we will merit the complete geulah.
(Again, these words were said a few months ago, and perhaps they no longer need to occur.)
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| | Another Simple Jew | RE: Blood will flow like waterPosted: 23/8/05 6:39 | |
| | quoting A Simple Jew: | The events in Gaza and now what is beginning to transpire in Sa-Nur and Chomesh are misleading the world into thinking that taking Jewish land from the Jews is like taking candy from a baby.
I'm here to tell you that rivers of blood will flow over Jerusalem...THEIR blood! |
You are right. It wets the appetite. America is keeping its forces in Iraq, not so far from Yerushalayim. Lerm on the Kahane forum suggests that Sharon will dump democracy and change direction. That might entice America to come and "save democracy" and "make peace".
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| | A Simple Jew | they can't afford itPosted: 23/8/05 10:05 | |
| I have no appetite for blood,but if they are coming for Jerusalem, they will find that the price will be too high---more than anything the world has encountered since the Roman rebellion.
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| | דניאל | RE: What about the Malachim?Posted: 25/8/05 1:14 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | Daniel,
Perhaps you or your friend knows how this is supposed to fit in with what you posted previously, on the Hebrew forum?
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Hi Yaakov,
Sorry, I have no idea whatsoever. I don't know until now if it even going to happen, as I said in the original post. If I have any news I will probably post it here. I posted in the Hebrew forum almost everything I heard from the Rabbi about the Geulah. I think Ani Mamin posted translation of the whole thing here to English somewhere with the title "brief", but maybe it's gone for some reason.
By the way, Gog1.com (Hebrew) updated today, and they are far less optimistic than they were before. They themselves say that they hope none of the bad things will occur, but the things said by Rabbi Banayahu are indeed frightening.
מי שפוחד מאחד לא פוחד מאף אחד...
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| | Yaakov Nathan | split threadPosted: 26/8/05 19:57 | |
| | Hoping for an update |
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