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| אני מאמין | Updates from the Rav who predicted TsunamiPosted: 20/7/05 7:10 | |
| (short briefing about the this Hebrew thread that started at Jul3/2005 and this thread from Jun12/2005 and this thread from May29/2005)
Daniel had brought some interesting information from a Kabbalistic Rav in Israel, that gives lessons every Shabbat in a synagogue, and from time to time speaks about the future. This Rav, according to him, which is not known nationwide, is the only one who predicted the tsunami on time. In the same synagogue he said one day before the tsunami, that very soon something really bad is going to happen in California or in India. One day later the tsunami was reported in the news.
The following is a translation of the first post about the Rav's words, taken from ErevMoshiach forum:
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Today I heard that over Shabbos there was a regular lecture in a certain shul in central Israel by a known Kabbalist Rav (though not known nationwide).... The lecture was given to a limited audience, and the things that were said were only for this limited audience. Because of this, I can't write here all the details. But before this, I only will say that this Rav is the *only one* (as far as I know) who foresaw the tsunami exactly in time. In front of the same audience, one day before the tsunami, the Rav said that very soon something very hard will happen in India or in California! One day later we already saw the tsunami in the news....
So now I will write this that you should know that until recently this Rav spoke about the geulah and about Moshiach in a distant timeframe. Once he mentioned the year: 5769 (another 4 years from now). But it would seem that something changed his mind after the Hilula of the Rashbi (L'ag B'Omer), and in the last lecture he said that Moshiach should come within the coming year, and he based this on a hint in the verses referring to the Exodus from Egypt--from those verses we see that Moshiach comes 234 years before the year 6000 (because...the Messianic Era is before the 7000th year, and we are guaranteed by the tzaddikim that it is at least 200 years prior). Thus, as is known, when the year 5765 began we were 235 years away from the year 6000, and now we are approximately 234.4 years from the year 6000, which indicates that we apparently are very close. He didn't speak about a specific season, but on the year that it will happen, which suggests that it will be either 5765 or 5766; in any event, not more than a year.
From what I heard, the people in the shul received this with shock/excitement.
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The second post came two weeks later, talking about the clocks of the Baba Sally that were given to Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu. This came after Israeli National TV (Channel 1) had reported on the clocks in the 9 o'clock news (see video here), which when they reach the hour 12, the Geula will come. The Rav said the following info about the clocks:
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1. The silver clock is a clock of Rahamim (רחמים, mercy) as Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu said. But according to what the Rav said in the lesson, the hour in the clock now is already 12. According to what he said, the meaning of it is that the people of Israel are already deserve Geula from the Rahamim side!
2, The gold clock is indeed a clock of Din (דין, judgement). The Rav didn't elaborate on what the time on that clock. When this clock will arrive to the destined hour, the meaning will be a Nekama (נקמה, vengeance) against the evil Goyim and the Geula of Israel from the side of Din, which is the full Geula that we expect.
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Amazingly, Yaakov Nathan brought news from Eli (the wonder kid from ErevMoshiach) exactly on the same time, that Eli says that the clock had reached the hour of 12, just like the Rav said.
The third post of Daniel about words of the Rav who predicted the tsunami is as follows (also summarized here in YeranenYaakov Blog)
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A) Hitnatkut (disengagment)
The Rav said that the Hitnatkut will be carried out! Probably these word astonished the synagogue crowd that claimed it doesn't fit with other Gedolim words and promises. In response he said that this is only his opinion, not a prophecy (Daniel points that in his opinion the Rav said this just in order to avoid arguing with them)
B) The Next Stage
The Rav said that the next step after the completion of the Hitnatkut will be the beginning of the talking about our holy city Yerushalyim (Jerusalem), and handing it over ח"ו to Arabs hands. He claimed that the public debate whether to hand over Yerushlayim or not will be a very fateful debate: this debate is going to be simply "The Final Berur" (Berur = בירור, filtering the bad part from the good part)!
Apparently, in the end of this debate (maybe in the middle of it), those who would support the handing of Yerushalayim to the Arabs are those who "have no Jewish soul"!
After this stage is over, we'll reach the end, and the Geula will start.
C) Water
The Rav mentioned that according to what's written, before the coming of Moshiach we need to wait for a Para Aduma (פרה אדומה, red heifer), because of our tuma'a (טומאה, impurity). But the Rav said that we don't have to wait for the red heifer. The reason is that in the Temple Mount in Yerushalayim the water are now rising. The Rav said he saw them by himself (probably speaking of the Gihon water). He said that eventually the water will go up and will wash everything (or rise above everything or something like that), and these water will be what purify us, and we won't need Para Aduma - - - and then Moshiach will come!
D) Malachim (מלאכים, angels)
The following are statements from the Rav from a few months ago, which was before the Hilula of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai (Lag BaOmer), which means before the Rav said the Geula will be within a year, but when he thoughts it would take a few more years, so maybe this part has already been canceled. But the things are written because they seem related to the things above:
When the Temple was destroyed, there was a certain process that Malachim (מלאכים, angels) needed to go up to Shamayim (שמים, heavens) from the Temple, but what happened was that they didn't make it before the destruction of the Temple, and they were just "stuck" down - in the place of Even HaShtiya (אבן השתייה) (where ther Arabs stuck their obnoxious mosque).
The Rav said that the name of these Malachim is "Er'elim" (אראלים). He explained very seriously the following part:
We all remember that the Arabs started a few years ago a new intifada that they called something like Jerusalem-intifada or Al-Aqsa-intifada. The thing that started the whole mess at that time was that Ariel Sharon (then head of the opposition) went into Temple Mount (this happened almost on the last day of 5760: Sep28/2000, and Sharon declared there that "Every Jew has the right to visit Temple Mount"  This happened at the time that PM Barak agreed to hand over to the Arabs 95% of the territories including the holy city Yerushalayim (Jerusalem), but Arafat ימ"ש didn't agree).
The Rav said (a few months ago) that the spiritual reason for all the mess that started then was something like that: the private name of Arik Sharon is Ariel. It seems it has a big meaning (I also think that there is a meaning to the man himself). When he entered Temple Mount at that time, it was a spiritual signal for the Malachim that were stuck there, and "something" woke up with them! Then started the big mess!
The Rav added and said: After a period of not a long time from now, this Malachim will get out from the place that they were "stuck" in when the Temple was destroyed. But their exit won't be something to be seen only by those who have spirtual eyes! Everyone will see the Malachim when they go up to Shamayim!
And then the real mess will start: The Moslems will say that these were their Malachim, and this is a sign from Shamayim that they are the one who control Temple mount, and their control must continue. We will say that these were our Malachim that were stuck there since the Temple was destroyed. This debate will go on, and if the people of Israel will be determined that Yerushalyim is ours, undivided, then we will get the full Geula.
As said, these are things said from a few months ago, and maybe the're not relevant anymore.
E/F) Water/Eli
See this link from Lazer Beams of Rabbi Lazer Brodi about the water rising:
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The Gihon River mentioned in Genesis 2:13 flows under Jerusalem, directly under the Holy Temple Mount, under what today is known as the Dome of the Rock in the Al Aksa mosque. There, it's known as Siloam Spring (see Rashi on Kings I, 1:33), and flows out in the direction of Silwan (Arabic for Siloam), the Arab town directly to the South of the Temple Mount. King Hezekiah sealed off the waters of the Gihon when he was threatened by Sannherib and the Assyrians (see Chronicles II, 32:30 and Talmud tractate Brachos 10b).
According to Islamic tradition, when the waters of the Gihon begin surfacing under the Dome of the Rock, then the Jewish Messiah is fast on the way, and their downfall is imminent. Soon, very soon, there won't be any more mosques on the Temple Mount.
In recent months, several witnesses have told about water seeping out of the floor near the base of the Dome of the Rock. The Jerusalem Wakf, the Moslem religious authority, has hurried to fabricate the lie of faultry drainage causing the water seepage. All you have to do is to pick up an East Jerusalem phone book, and call any plumber at random; you'll have a 50-50 chance that he's one of the many that the panicking Wakf has summoned to stop the trickling, but to no avail. The Mufti himself knows darn well that all the plumbers in the world won't stop the waters of salvation from gushing out soon; the Siloam Pool will be the mikve where Moshiach Tzidkenu will immerse himself every morning before praying and learning.
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Rabbi Brodi also made these pictures available to better understand what's happening.
Also see ErevMoshiach scenario describing the following from the wonder-child Eli.
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the water will go all the way up above all the buildings. Jews (including non-religious Jews) and righteous non-Jews will float up and up on the water to shomayim (Heaven). "The water will be a mikvah (spiritual cleansing) to clean out our tamei (sic) from all the tamei (impure) things we did." This will take away our yetzer hara (evil inclination).
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Asked about the Rav idenitity, Daniel replied that he cannot reveal it, because the reason that the things are being said by the Rav is that they're said before a small crowd. If the Rav will know that they're being published in his name, he will stop talking freely about this subjects. However he said that this is a Kabbalist Rav who also teaches Kabbala, and one of the renowned tzadikim in our generation, from a known dynasty, recommends people to learn Kabbalah only with him. He himself learned from a renowned tzadik זצוק"ל known for his wonder making and his future sight. The lesson is not given in a Charedi (ultra-orthodox) city, because of a request by the tzadik from the famous dynasty.
Later that week, it was mentioned in a different thread that Rav Mordechai Eliyahu said similar things as Daniel's Rav about the water and Para Aduma (see video), only that the source of the water that Rav Eliyahu talked about was Shamayim and not Gihon. This is a translation of his words, from Erev Moshiach Forum:
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Regarding what we said about the red heifer, [about] the third, the seventh [days of purification]:
Moshiach will come now -- where will the third [day] come from, where will the seventh [day] come from? [In other words, purification via the process of the red heifer requires seven full days to pass, as well as a process of sprinkling the water mixed with ashes over each and every individual Jew--a very lengthy process to purify the entire Jewish people.] What are we going to do now, we won't be able to touch Moshiach? We won't be able to touch Eliyahu Hanovi? Imagine when my turn arrives...[The Talmudic sages] Abaye, Rava, Ravina, Rav Ashi will all be alive [and in need of purification]...until my turn arrives [as I will have to wait behind all the great sages of previous generations] it will be a long time.
[Therefore, to solve this logistical problem] the Holy One says, "I will make a temporary law for you." The Torah belongs to G-d, the laws are his [so He can make a temporary law if He desires]. He makes a one-time law: "I will pour upon you pure water and you will be purified" (Ezekiel). The heavens will open up...
It is written that when Hashem created the world, the water was split--half was placed above, half was placed below....When Moshiach will come Hashem will open up the heavens and "I will pour upon you pure water and you will be purified". We won't need third, the seventh [days], we won't need the ezov, we won't need the red heifer...the Holy One says "One time I will permit you [full purification without the seven day waiting and sprinkling process]. Afterwards if you become impure you'll need the red heifer, but now I will make it easy for you: "I will pour upon you pure water and you will be purified" and it should be Hashem's will that it happen very speedily in our time, Amen!
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Later in that thread, sources for Rav Eliyahu's words have been found from Malbim on Yechezkel, Zohar B 266B, Zohar C 42A, Zohar C 69B, Razi'el HaMalach.
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Malbim says there that para aduma is only the way of purification in the past (he calls the para aduma water: "mayim teme'im" because it is of a dead animal), but "in future to come" the purification will be done not by these "mey nida" but by other water which are mayim tehorim
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| | yaak | water used to purifyPosted: 22/7/05 19:10 | |
| | Quote: | | Later in that thread, sources for Rav Eliyahu's words have been found from Malbim on Yechezkel, Zohar B 266B, Zohar C 42A, Zohar C 69B, Razi'el HaMalach. |
It's also in a 2-line paragraph in Yalkut Shimoni on Hukat near the beginning of the Parasha.
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yaak
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| | אני מאמין | [brief] more from the Rav who foresaw the tsunamiPosted: 25/7/05 5:56 | |
| Daniel has updated us again in the Hebrew forum about what the Rav mentioned in the starting post said last Shabbat.
He said that the Rav had told them that from Shamayim (שמים, heavens) they revealed to him that the only reason the Geula (גאולה, redemption) is not arriving yet is the lack of unity within the people of Israel. Furthermore, they asked him from Shamayim to talk about the subject of unity in Israel, and he asked for everyone to talk about it.
Daniel wrote that he was afraid to write such things as a Rav talking with Shamayim in this generation, because people might not believe it, because almost no one talks this way in our generation. However, to emphasize who this Rav was and still not identify him by name, he added to what he said before that the Rav "himself learned from a renowned tzadik זצוק"ל known for his wonder making and his future sight", that the renowned Tzadik that was the teacher of the Rav was the renowned Rav Nachmani, known for his accurate future sight.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | RE: [brief] more from the Rav who foresaw the tsunamiPosted: 25/7/05 6:06 | |
| | quoting אני מאמין: | | the renowned Tzadik that was the teacher of the Rav was the renowned Rav Nachmani |
What can you tell us about this Rav Nachmani?
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| | אני מאמין | RE: [brief] more from the Rav who foresaw the tsunamiPosted: 25/7/05 6:32 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting אני מאמין: | | the renowned Tzadik that was the teacher of the Rav was the renowned Rav Nachmani |
What can you tell us about this Rav Nachmani? |
Rav Nachmani was mentioned in the Hebrew forum, and also here in the post about North Korea. The following was taken from there:
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The user מרדכי היהודי replied with a piece of information of his own. The following translation is taken from Yeranen Yaakov blog:
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Anyways, the poster "Mordechai Hayehudi" here explains that there was a rabbi in Israel named Rav Levi Sa'adiah Nahmani ZTVK"L, who had a background in accurate predictions. He predicted the 6-day war to the day 3 days before it happened while living in Morocco. He predicted the Yom Kippur war to the month. He is definitely someone with Ru'ah Hakodesh.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | Posted: 25/7/05 9:15 | |
| One of the things that I read above about the malachim trapped in the Temple Mount being released reminded me of the following Maaseh that I heard said in the name of the holy Maggid of Mezritch:
The Maggid taught that in the end of days there will be another test of faith as there was by Har Carmel in the days of Eliyahu - however this time, the fire will come down on the 'altars of the Baal'. Perhaps this parallels the ascending angels who the Muslims will think are ascending as a result of their offering to Allah??
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| | Yaakov Nathan | MidrashPosted: 25/7/05 11:39 | |
| | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | One of the things that I read above about the malachim trapped in the Temple Mount being released reminded me of the following Maaseh that I heard said in the name of the holy Maggid of Mezritch:
The Maggid taught that in the end of days there will be another test of faith as there was by Har Carmel in the days of Eliyahu - however this time, the fire will come down on the 'altars of the Baal'. Perhaps this parallels the ascending angels who the Muslims will think are ascending as a result of their offering to Allah?? |
And Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, “The Holy Temple is ours - take gold and silver, and leave the Temple to us.”
And the Arab king will say “You have no claim to this Temple. However, if you will first choose an offering, as you did in days of old, and we will also present an offering. And we will all become part of the nation whose offering is accepted.”
Israel will present their offering and it will NOT be accepted, because Satan will prosecute us in front of Hashem.
And the sons of Kedar will present their offering and it will be accepted, as the verse states: “All the sheep of Kedar will gather together to you.”
Then, the Arabs will say to Israel, “Come, believe in our faith.”
And Israel will answer, “We will kill, or be killed, but we will not Deny the Essence.”
Then, swords will be unsheathed, bows will be drawn, arrows will be fired, and corpses will be felled from the Gate of Efraim till the Gate of Pinah. And Nechemiah (most probably, Mashiach ben Yosef) will be among those that are killed.
Those who escape will flee to the desert of Moav and to the land of the Sons of Amon. There, the Israeli refugees will remain, and Hashem will perform miracles for them there, and a wellspring will emerge from the depths, etc., and they will eat the roots of thorn bushes, for forty five days. At the end of forty five days, Eliyahu and King Mashiach will sprout from there....
This midrash is brought by the Chofetz Chayim in his sefer Tzipisa L'Yishua.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: MidrashPosted: 26/7/05 2:04 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | One of the things that I read above about the malachim trapped in the Temple Mount being released reminded me of the following Maaseh that I heard said in the name of the holy Maggid of Mezritch:
The Maggid taught that in the end of days there will be another test of faith as there was by Har Carmel in the days of Eliyahu - however this time, the fire will come down on the 'altars of the Baal'. Perhaps this parallels the ascending angels who the Muslims will think are ascending as a result of their offering to Allah?? |
And Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, “The Holy Temple is ours - take gold and silver, and leave the Temple to us.”
And the Arab king will say [...] At the end of forty five days, Eliyahu and King Mashiach will sprout from there....
This midrash is brought by the Chofetz Chayim in his sefer Tzipisa L'Yishua. |
Yashar koach, very interesting source. I have read however that Moshiach Ben Yosef will not need to die if we will merit to zachu achishena, I will have to try to re-locate the source for this idea.
Also, I believe that the Rambam explains in his hakdamos to the Mishnaos that any negative prophecy does not need to be fulfilled, if the people do teshuvah to annul the potential decree. Iy'H maybe we will be zoche that HaShem will accept the offering of His nation Israel averting the potential need for war.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | RE: MidrashPosted: 26/7/05 3:39 | |
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Yashar koach, very interesting source. I have read however that Moshiach Ben Yosef will not need to die if we will merit to zachu achishena, I will have to try to re-locate the source for this idea. |
In Kol Hator (attributed to the main talmid of the Gra) it says:
These are the seven major principles connected with the approach of the “Footsteps of the Moshiach,” based upon “on each stone were seven eyes” (Zechariah 3:9), according to Rabbeinu HaGR”A.
a.) Yosef is still alive: A fundamental of Rabbeinu was “Yosef is still alive,” meaning that the Moshiach Ben Yosef is still alive and will live, and will annul the decree to be killed by the evil Armilus, for as it is said: all aspects of the beginning of the redemption are dependent upon him.
The decree will annulled as a result of the extension of the exile, by afflictions that Moshiach Ben Yosef will suffer and the sickness he will endure, and as a result of the deeds he will perform with great devotion, such as gathering in exiles, his mission. The messianic pangs and afflictions connected with Eretz Israel will also contribute, as will our daily prayers for the life and success of Moshiach Ben Yosef. Furthermore, those who occupy themselves with gathering in the exiles lighten the suffering of Moshiach Ben Yosef during the Footsteps of the Moshiach.
The decree of the death of Moshiach Ben Yosef will be nullified by dividing it into small parts, as in the parable in the Midrash:
Once there was a king who became angry with his son and swore to throw a big stone at him. Later he changed his mind and had compassion on him. However, in order to fulfill his vow [but not kill his son] he broke the big stone into many smaller pieces and threw these at his son, one by one. The son was not killed, but he nevertheless suffered from the small stones.
These are the “Pangs of the Moshiach”: the suffering occurs over time, together with the 999 footsteps of the Moshiach in such a way that the decree is divided into 999 small parts. Nevertheless, help will come as the posuk says, “a time of trouble it is for Ya’akov,” (Yirmiyahu 30:7), from which he will be saved.
As pointed out elsewhere, the gematria of "a time of trouble" for Yaakov is תשסה (this year).
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| | Rash_ | Yaakov NathanPosted: 26/7/05 4:14 | |
| | Quote: | | And Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, “The Holy Temple is ours - take gold and silver, and leave the Temple to us.” [...] those who escape will flee to the desert of Moav and to the land of the Sons of Amon. There, the Israeli refugees will remain, and Hashem will perform miracles for them there, and a wellspring will emerge from the depths, etc., and they will eat the roots of thorn bushes, for forty five days. At the end of forty five days, Eliyahu and King Mashiach will sprout from there.... |
Wait a minute, didn't the Lubavitcher Rebbe Shlita say that this and many other situations won't happen because all of the sufferings wev'e gone through over the years substitute them?
Thats what I thought.
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| | אני מאמין | RE: Yaakov NathanPosted: 26/7/05 4:32 | |
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Wait a minute, didn't the Lubavitcher Rebbe Shlita say that this and many other situations won't happen because all of the sufferings wev'e gone through over the years substitute them?
Thats what I thought. |
Allow me to answer you. If you take a deeper look in the words of the opening aritcle, you'll see that before talking about the Malachim thing, Daniel said the following:
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The following are statements from the Rav from a few months ago, which was before the Hilula of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai (Lag BaOmer), which means before the Rav said the Geula will be within a year, but when he thoughts it would take a few more years, so maybe this part has already been canceled. But the things are written because they seem related to the things above: |
I believe they were canceled. But you never know. If you just take a look over what's happening here (in Israel), you'd see that we're still suffering a lot from what our Sages told us.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: MidrashPosted: 26/7/05 7:19 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting Aharon Benjamin: |
Yashar koach, very interesting source. I have read however that Moshiach Ben Yosef will not need to die if we will merit to zachu achishena, I will have to try to re-locate the source for this idea. |
In Kol Hator (attributed to the main talmid of the Gra) it says:
These are the seven major principles connected with the approach of the “Footsteps of the Moshiach,” [...] As pointed out elsewhere, the gematria of "a time of trouble" for Yaakov is תשסה (this year). |
Fascinating stuff! Thanks very much - I see that this also corresponds well with one of the footnotes from the other article that you posted on the Moshiach Ben Yosef thread:
[17]. The battle of Gog and Magog (see above, Appendix I, note 2) is another of the complex issues of the Messianic redemption. In fact, an authoritative tradition from the disciples of the Baal Shem Tov states that the extraordinary length of the present severe galut has already made up for the troubles of that battle and the trauma of the death of Moshiach ben Yossef, so that these will no longer occur; see R. Shemuel of Sochachev, Shem MiShemuel, Vayigash, s.v. Vayigash 5677 (s.v. venireh od, p. 298bf.).
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| | BK | SourcesPosted: 26/7/05 14:07 | |
| I am far from a sceptic of such things but why is it that the Rav is never named when many of these things get brought up? Surely it will lend more legitimacy to what is said and will make it more believable!
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| | Rashi | Posted: 27/7/05 3:34 | |
| Why wouldn't the Tzaddik not show his powers of prophecy in order to help the Jews?
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| | רפאל | RE: MidrashPosted: 29/7/05 11:15 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | One of the things that I read above about the malachim trapped in the Temple Mount being released reminded me of the following Maaseh that I heard said in the name of the holy Maggid of Mezritch:
The Maggid taught that in the end of days there will be another test of faith as there was by Har Carmel in the days of Eliyahu - however this time, the fire will come down on the 'altars of the Baal'. Perhaps this parallels the ascending angels who the Muslims will think are ascending as a result of their offering to Allah?? |
And Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, “The Holy Temple is ours - take gold and silver, and leave the Temple to us.”
And the Arab king will say “You have no claim to this Temple. However, if you will first choose an offering, as you did in days of old, and we will also present an offering. And we will all become part of the nation whose offering is accepted.”
Israel will present their offering and it will NOT be accepted, because Satan will prosecute us in front of Hashem.
And the sons of Kedar will present their offering and it will be accepted, as the verse states: “All the sheep of Kedar will gather together to you.”
Then, the Arabs will say to Israel, “Come, believe in our faith.”
And Israel will answer, “We will kill, or be killed, but we will not Deny the Essence.”
Then, swords will be unsheathed, bows will be drawn, arrows will be fired, and corpses will be felled from the Gate of Efraim till the Gate of Pinah. And Nechemiah (most probably, Mashiach ben Yosef) will be among those that are killed.
Those who escape will flee to the desert of Moav and to the land of the Sons of Amon. There, the Israeli refugees will remain, and Hashem will perform miracles for them there, and a wellspring will emerge from the depths, etc., and they will eat the roots of thorn bushes, for forty five days. At the end of forty five days, Eliyahu and King Mashiach will sprout from there....
This midrash is brought by the Chofetz Chayim in his sefer Tzipisa L'Yishua. |
This refers to the second part of Milchemet Gog v'Magog in 5794. Note that the Midrash speaks of Arabs (and not Edom) and about an existing Temple. The Temple will be rebuilt after the defeat of Edom in the first part of Gog v'Magog (5782).
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: MidrashPosted: 31/7/05 8:37 | |
| | quoting רפאל: | | ...This refers to the second part of Milchemet Gog v'Magog in 5794. Note that the Midrash speaks of Arabs (and not Edom) and about an existing Temple. The Temple will be rebuilt after the defeat of Edom in the first part of Gog v'Magog (5782). |
From where are you pulling these numbers out of thin air after the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach - has declared as a matter of prophecy that "LAltar LeGeulah" and "hineh zeh Moshiach Bah!" - not to mention the statements of Rav Mordechai Eliyahu, Rav Kaduri and the Gerrer Rebbe etc. etc. ?!
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| | YakovMoshe | hashgacha protis with 9th of Av 3830Posted: 1/8/05 5:36 | |
| Unfortunately, we know that the 9th of Av 3830 was the Churban (haRacham-an letslan). But according to a Hebrew-English calendar program "Kaluach 2" it says that the date 9 Av 3830 occured on a SHABBOS. It was parshas Devarim and was Shabbos Chazon. It is well-know that HaSh-em prepares the refuah before the makka. On the night of Shabbos Chazon we get a glimpse of the Third Holy Temple. Did that occur that year? Shabbos evening was before the destruction.
... food for thought
yakov moshe
I've heard that to correct the sin of sinas chinom we need to do ahavas chinom. ... but how in practical ways?
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| | Yaakov Nathan | R' Lazer Brody Interview w/MekubalPosted: 2/8/05 1:54 | |
| From R' Lazer Brody's website today, 25 Tammuz (August 1):
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Ashdod is blessed with tzaddikim (exceptionally pious) and talmidei chachomim (scholars). Rabbi BT is both a tzaddik and a talmid chochom, who stays far away from the public eye. 70 years old and Moroccan born, Rabbi BT is a genius in Kabbala who devotes 20 hours a day to prayer and Torah study, yet looks like the simplest human on earth. He barely speaks, but when he does, he's quoting Talmud or Zohar. With Hashem's help, I was able to able to exchange a few words with Rabbi BT earlier today.
Lazer: Rabbi BT, what's the spiritual message behind the government's disengagement plan?
Rabbi BT: This is a terrible decree against all the entire people of Israel. Gush Katif is the sacrificial lamb (kapara, in original Hebrew). All the great rabbinical sages of the generation - Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu, Rabbi Shlomo Amar, Rabbi Elyashiv - all have forbidden the destruction of Jewish settlements, yeshivot, mikvas, and synagogues.
Lazer: Why doesn't Sharon listen to them?
Rabbi BT: He can't; he no longer possesses free will. The situation resembles that of Pharoah. But, Hashem will utilize Sharon to implement Divine will.
Lazer: Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu Shlit'a has said repeatedly that there won't be a disengagement. On the other hand, one of Rabbi Levi Nachmani's (of blessed memory, a pious and scholarly Kabbalist from Ramot, Jerusalem who passed away several years ago) leading pupils has said that there will be a disengagement in Gaza, and that the real fight will be for Jerusalem.
Rabbi BT: I am nothing but dust of the earth, and I certainly cannot contradict a single word that comes out of Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu's holy mouth, but the Zohar says emphatically that the moment of truth for the Jewish people will be Jerusalem. In my humble opinion, the settlements of Gush Katif and the exile of the thousands of righteous brave families that live there is only a tactic of diversion to conceal the real designs of the weak leaders who, rather than fearing the Lord, fear the foreign leaders who are plotting against the Jewish people. Even though I pray that the decree against Gush Katif will be rescinded, I think it will happen. Gush Katif is miniature compared to the test of faith that awaits us.
Lazer: You mean Jerusalem, Rabbi BT?
Rabbi BT: Yes. The world will try to take it from us. Few Jews will remain loyal and steadfast in their belief (emuna, in the original Hebrew). Many will think Hashem has forsaken us, G-d forbid. But, by virtue of those loyal few who unshakingly cling to their faith in Hashem, Moshiach will come and evil will be destroyed, G-d willing. The test of faith is only beginning...
Lazer: Rabbi BT, a lot of people have agreed to say Perek Shira for 40 days straight in behalf of Gush Katif. If the disengagement does materialize, they'll be sorely disappointed. How can I encourage them?
Rabbi BT: When a child asks a father for something, the father is allowed to say no. Our Holy Father in Heaven is no different. We must strengthen ourselves with the firm belief that everything He does is for the ultimate best. As for prayer, 40 consecutive days of Perek Shira is a powerful spiritual weapon. Prayer never goes to waste. If Hashem decides not to use those prayers to save Gush Katif, He may very well use them to save Jerusalem. Lazer, urge anyone who heeds your voice to keep on praying. My own wife was up until 4 a.m. this morning saying the entire Tehillim (Book of Psalms) in behalf of the Jewish settlers, both in Gaza and in the Shomron. Don't ever give up hope. Pray and Torah are the lamb's only answers to the seventy wolves (lamb is allegorical for Israel, the seventy wolves symbolize the nations of the world - LB).
Lazer (now on Rabbi BT's front doorstep in a dilapidated apartment building filled mostly with low-income immigrant families): Thank you, Rabbi, and may Hashem keep you strong!
Rabbi BT: Together with you and all the people of Israel, amen! |
http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_beams/...ew_wi.html
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| | רפאל | RE: R' Lazer Brody Interview w/MekubalPosted: 3/8/05 6:44 | |
| The way to the redemption is like the trajectory of a ball in a golf game which at the end of its long travel almost almost enters the hole. Though it does not enter, its encounter with the hole changes its course in such a way that it continues into the direction of a tree, bounces back and enters the hole.
Despite the fact that we are very very close to the hole, we will miss it. Many Tsaddikim feel how close we have come to our destination, and they are right, but they do not see that this is only the case with respect to distance, not with respect to time. There is still a short path to go.
The Tsaddik is right. Indeed, the struggle will be about Yerushalayim. But that is not now, that is the tree. Therefore, do no believe in those whose premise is that the end is already here. In summary, the Tsaddik is not right.
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| | Yehoshua | RE: R' Lazer Brody Interview w/MekubalPosted: 3/8/05 9:07 | |
| [quote="רפאל"]| quoting Yaakov Nathan: | From R' Lazer Brody's website today, 25 Tammuz (August 1):
Despite the fact that we are very very close to the hole, we will miss it. Many Tsaddikim feel how close we have come to our destination, and they are right, but they do not see that this is only the case with respect to distance, not with respect to time. There is still a short path to go. |
You are right and you are also not right. We can see from the Torah that one decision or action from one individual can change how things unfold. Like with Moshe Rabeinu and the rock. If he would have spoken to the rock things would have happend faster. Instead the jews spent an additional 39 years in the birthpangs of redemption.
The same is true now. The tzadikim know that the time is right for redemption. They like Moshe know that the shechina is here even though it is not 100% revealed. If we make the right choices the short path of time you speak about may not be needed.
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| | רפאל | RE: R' Lazer Brody Interview w/MekubalPosted: 3/8/05 14:01 | |
| | quoting Yehoshua: | | quoting רפאל: | | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | From R' Lazer Brody's website today, 25 Tammuz (August 1):
Despite the fact that we are very very close to the hole, we will miss it. Many Tsaddikim feel how close we have come to our destination, and they are right, but they do not see that this is only the case with respect to distance, not with respect to time. There is still a short path to go. |
You are right and you are also not right. We can see from the Torah that one decision or action from one individual can change how things unfold. Like with Moshe Rabeinu and the rock. If he would have spoken to the rock things would have happend faster. Instead the jews spent an additional 39 years in the birthpangs of redemption.
The same is true now. The tzadikim know that the time is right for redemption. They like Moshe know that the shechina is here even though it is not 100% revealed. If we make the right choices the short path of time you speak about may not be needed. |
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Your approach is well-founded, but in my humble understanding we missed all opportunities to change course to "hit the hole". Rather, things will be opposite: the close encounter will make us do Teshuva. What was in the days of old will come back, even better than it ever was: We will have the Sanhedrin, Shmita, Yovel, Shlemut HaAretz, Korban Pesach, Beit HaMikdash. And only when all that is in place, we will reach our destination (indeed, Tikun HaSofi).
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| | Asaf | Your opinion?!Posted: 3/8/05 15:37 | |
| | quoting רפאל: | | Your approach is well-founded, but in my humble understanding ... |
If you were truly humble you would not place yourself at the table with tzaddikim yereim v'shleimim! There are legitimate disagreements between tzaddikim, such as they say between Dovid and Shaul, etc. But we of miniscule perception are warned to keep out of matters we don't truly understand, no matter how many sefarim we read!
You should apologize to Rav B.T. for the chutzpa of challenging his perceptions.  And you should probably apologize to us on the forum for inflicting such narishkeit on us.
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| | A Simple Jew | We can ALL learn a lessonPosted: 3/8/05 16:11 | |
| Asaf, what you write here sounds like false humility to me. We are to walk humbly with Hashem. True humility is understanding and living and acting as if our Creator rules and reigns over us. It is not to say to oneself or to others, "Oh, I am as low as a worm and as nothing before all these greater beings."
You are not the first to jump so fast to the perceived slight of a tzaddik's honor. A true tzaddik would be appalled that you have spoken with such meanness to a fellow Jew on his behalf. Please learn from the following:
THERE IS NO JEALOUSY FOR THE NAME OF G-D AND INSTEAD EVERYBODY WORRIES ABOUT HIS ...HONOR
This is what the holy Rabbi Yehonathan Eyebeshutz, author of Yearot Devash writes there (Derush 15): “Due to our many sins, the jealousy and zealousness due to G-d have disappeared, they are turned upside down and in their place the honor ... of the people dominate. G-d forbid if someone comes and argues or diminishes the honor of any Rabbi or a leader of a congregation ..., they will run after him and persecute him until the end. But if on the other hand someone comes and damages or diminishes the honor of the Torah and he raises his hand against the Torah of Moshe, they will only shut their mouth. Even the good and pious people will only go so far as to say about that person: “May his name be blotted out”. But in this case no one will suggest to persecute him and run after him to humiliate him or cause him shame. And this constitutes the length of our exile, because no one is jealous for the Jealousy and Honor of G-d.
There is no dishonor in any difference of opinion lishma Torah, in my humble opinion. 
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| | Manny | Posted: 4/8/05 4:02 | |
| "the Rav said that very soon something very hard will happen in India or in California!"
Wow, great prediction. Sounds exactly like the sort of vague generalizations that TV psychics (fakes) make.
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| | Moshiach Now! | 'Sharon will be killed by Arabs - soon!'Posted: 5/8/05 1:26 | |
| A righteous humble Jew who I believe is a 'tzadik nistar' said just an hour ago that Sharon will be killed by Arabs soon. The answer to the question how soon was 'VERY soon'. When he was asked whether Sharon is Moshiach Ben Yosseph he said clearly 'No'.
My own comment: maybe this will be carried out as a revenge for today's killing of 4 Arabs in Israel by an Israeli soldier.
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| | דניאל | Updates from the Rav who predicted Tsunami (9/24)Posted: 22/8/05 2:00 | |
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Now that the Hebrew forum closed I'm posting here, if you don't mind.
According to my source, the rabbi said that the next stage (Jerusalem) will take place very fast (he mentioned Rice's statements urging Israel for more expulsions). He didn't talk about the rest of the settlements in Judea and Samaria, only about Jerusalem. He mentioned that the news talked about the Arabs preparing all their rockets in Ramalla to target Jerusalem. He described a situation that will happen very soon where the American army will be here (in Israel), and also from all of Europe. He also said that the Yishmaelim will also be here. A little vague here - my source didn't understand whether they all come for a war or something else (such as expelling Jews from their homes; "peacekeeping"; or anything else) - all he understood is that they will be present here soon one way or another.
The rabbi said that the situation in Jerusalem will be according to him "5000 times" worse than what happened in Gush Katif, and the people who will remain there after all the troubles will be called holy (quoting Yesha'ayahu chapter 4 verse 3): "והיה הנשאר בציון, והנותר בירושלים, קדוש ייאמר לו".
He said this is the big test in faith. No matter in Jerusalem or not - many will fail the test. He stressed that we all need to strengthen our faith very much.
He said that the reason that those from the religion of Esau will come to Jerusalem is because מזלייהו חזי [the soul sees on a level above consciousness -- YN] that the truth is about to be revealed in the world. Therefore they will try to desecrate anything holy in Jerusalem, even the holiest places, with their tum'aa.
After they will harm Jerusalem, haShem will go and fight them himself, and then Moshiach will come.
That's all I heard. Very sad in my opinion - especially in this hard time. I have a feeling that he will elaborate on this matter in the coming weeks because there are many things that are unclear.
אפילו חרב חדה מונחת על צוארו של אדם אל ימנע עצמן מן הרחמים.
עושה שלום במרומיו הוא ברחמיו יעשה שלום עלינו ועל כל עמו ישראל ואמרו אמן.
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| | A Simple Jew | Blood will flow like waterPosted: 22/8/05 8:43 | |
| The events in Gaza and now what is beginning to transpire in Sa-Nur and Chomesh are misleading the world into thinking that taking Jewish land from the Jews is like taking candy from a baby.
I'm here to tell you that rivers of blood will flow over Jerusalem...THEIR blood!
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| | Isaac | Ask him about EliPosted: 22/8/05 12:02 | |
| Could someone ask him about Eli?
You said that he takes questions, right? Maybe someone could ask him about the six year-old boy in New York, what he thinks.
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| | ח.ד--venisss | Posted: 22/8/05 23:51 | |
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לדניאל היקר
נפתח פורום חדש בעברית במקום זה הישן שנסגר.
בוא תצטרף אלינו. אין ספק שנוכחותך שם תועיל מאוד.
אז קדימה הנה הקישור לפורום החדש של אחרית הימים, הכנס הרשם ותעדכן את כולנו כי לא כולם מבינים אנגלית רהוטה.
תודה מראש ח.ד--venisss
http://hydepark.hevre.co.il/hydepark/forum.asp?forum_id=14880
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| | Chaya | translatePosted: 23/8/05 0:52 | |
| Can someone please translate the previous post - I can only make parts of it out - thanks:)
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| | Dvir N. | Posted: 23/8/05 0:53 | |
| דניאל welcome to the English forum, I look forward to future post.
Thanks,
Dvir N.
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| | דניאל | RepliesPosted: 23/8/05 1:49 | |
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Isaac: About asking him about Eli: the lesson is in Shabas and I can't go there in Shabas. My source is very shy, and I have about 2000 questions that I want him to ask - but he's too shy. לא הביישן למד
venisss: Thanks but no thanks, I have reasons for writing here and not there.
Chaya: Venisss just asked me to write in the new Hebrew forum which she gave link to.
Dvir: Thank you very much!!! I'm not new here, but my posts here are new, I'm glad you like them.
And finally Yaakov Nathan: Thanks for giving an explanation for "מזלייהו חזי". I had no idea how to translate it...
אפילו חרב חדה מונחת על צוארו של אדם אל ימנע עצמן מן הרחמים.
עושה שלום במרומיו הוא ברחמיו יעשה שלום עלינו ועל כל עמו ישראל ואמרו אמן.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | What about the Malachim?Posted: 23/8/05 5:02 | |
| Daniel,
Perhaps you or your friend knows how this is supposed to fit in with what you posted previously, on the Hebrew forum?
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The Rav said this several months ago (before Lag B'Omer, when he was holding that the geulah was several years away). So perhaps this is no longer applicable.
In the time that the Bais Hamikdash was destroyed, there was a process whereby Malachim [angels] would need to arise to Shomayim from the Bais HaMikdash via korbanos [sacrifices] (details not provided here). Those that didn't manage to go up before the Bais Hamikdash was destroyed were "caught" below. In the place of the Even Shesiya (Foundation Stone, where the mizbeach [altar] was placed, according to some opinions). This is where the Muslims built their dome.
The Rav said that the name of these Melachim is "Arelim". He explained this with great seriousness. He said that spiritual reason for the latest Intifada (called by the Arabs the "Al Aksa Intifada", Al Aksa being the Mosque they built on the Temple mount) was connected to Ariel Sharon's first name, that there is some great meaning to "Ariel" going up to the Har Habayis [Temple Mount], that it was a sign to the malachim there which "awakened" something in them. And this is when the whole Intifada began.
The Rav added that not too far from now these malachim will go out from the place where they are "caught" since the chorban [destruction of the Temple]. But this will not be something that will only be seen by those with "spiritual eyes", but everyone will see these malachim at the time they ascend to Heaven.
That's when things will really begin--the Muslims will say that these were the malachim that their worship generated and is a sign from Heaven that they are the rightful guardians of the Temple Mount and that their guardianship must continue. We will say that these are the malachim that were caught there since the chorban. This conflict will continue, and if the Jewish people will be strong in their opinion that Yerushalayim is ours and is not to be divided, then we will merit the complete geulah.
(Again, these words were said a few months ago, and perhaps they no longer need to occur.)
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| | Another Simple Jew | RE: Blood will flow like waterPosted: 23/8/05 6:39 | |
| | quoting A Simple Jew: | The events in Gaza and now what is beginning to transpire in Sa-Nur and Chomesh are misleading the world into thinking that taking Jewish land from the Jews is like taking candy from a baby.
I'm here to tell you that rivers of blood will flow over Jerusalem...THEIR blood! |
You are right. It wets the appetite. America is keeping its forces in Iraq, not so far from Yerushalayim. Lerm on the Kahane forum suggests that Sharon will dump democracy and change direction. That might entice America to come and "save democracy" and "make peace".
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| | A Simple Jew | they can't afford itPosted: 23/8/05 10:05 | |
| I have no appetite for blood,but if they are coming for Jerusalem, they will find that the price will be too high---more than anything the world has encountered since the Roman rebellion.
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| | דניאל | RE: What about the Malachim?Posted: 25/8/05 1:14 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | Daniel,
Perhaps you or your friend knows how this is supposed to fit in with what you posted previously, on the Hebrew forum?
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Hi Yaakov,
Sorry, I have no idea whatsoever. I don't know until now if it even going to happen, as I said in the original post. If I have any news I will probably post it here. I posted in the Hebrew forum almost everything I heard from the Rabbi about the Geulah. I think Ani Mamin posted translation of the whole thing here to English somewhere with the title "brief", but maybe it's gone for some reason.
By the way, Gog1.com (Hebrew) updated today, and they are far less optimistic than they were before. They themselves say that they hope none of the bad things will occur, but the things said by Rabbi Banayahu are indeed frightening.
מי שפוחד מאחד לא פוחד מאף אחד...
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| | Yaakov Nathan | split threadPosted: 26/8/05 19:57 | |
| Hoping for an update on Aug 28...a more optimistic one! A Jew should always be optimistic, because every descent is for the sake of a greater ascent. Es tzora l'Yaakov..u-mimena yevashe'a!
(for the thread on Gog1, click here)
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| | DEAR DANIEL. | Posted: 27/8/05 19:52 | |
| is there any news from tha rabbi who predicted "tzunamy"?
please let us know...
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| | דניאל | No news from the RabbiPosted: 28/8/05 1:49 | |
| | quoting DEAR DANIEL.: | is there any news from tha rabbi who predicted "tzunamy"?
please let us know... |
Sorry, nothing new to report this week. All the lesson was about Elul and slihot.
Believe me that if I have news, I'll post them here. I'm just as anxious to write as you are anxious to read it.
שבוע טוב
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| | אורח | לדניאלPosted: 28/8/05 2:14 | |
| לדניאל שלום האם אפשר לקבל עדכון חדש מהרב שניבא את הצונמי אבל בעברית תודה
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| | דניאל | RE: לדניאלPosted: 29/8/05 2:16 | |
| | quoting אורח: | | לדניאל שלום האם אפשר לקבל עדכון חדש מהרב שניבא את הצונמי אבל בעברית תודה |
(this is a Hebrew version of the opening article)
שלום.
השבוע לא היה שום עדכון חדש. אז אני אכתוב כאן רק את העדכון הקודם משבוע שעבר:
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לפי המקור שלי הרב אמר שהשלב הבא (ירושלים) יקרה ממש מהר (הוא הזכיר את ההצהרות של קונדוליסה רייס שלוחצת על הממשלה לבצע גירושים נוספים). הוא לא דיבר על שאר ההתנחלויות ביו"ש - רק על ירושלים. הוא הזכיר את זה שבחדשות דיברו על זה שהערבים מכינים את כל הקסאמים ברמאללה לכיוון ירושלים. הוא תיאר מצב שיקרה מאוד בקרוב שבו הצבא האמריקאי יהיה כאן, וגם מכל אירופה. הוא אמר שגם הישמעאלים יהיו כאן, אבל כל העניין הזה כנראה היה די מעורפל והמקור שלי לא הבין אם הם כולם יבואו למלחמה או למשהו אחר (כמו לעזור בגירוש היהודים מהבתים שלהם, "שמירת השלום" או משהו אחר) - כל מה שהוא הבין זה שהם יהיו כאן בקרוב כך או אחרת.
הרב אמר שהמצב בירושלים יהיה "פי 5000" יותר גרוע ממה שקרה בגוש קטיף, והאנשים שיישארו שם למרות כל הצרות יקראו קדושים, כמו שכתוב בישעיהו ד, ג: "והיה הנשאר בציון, והנותר בירושלים, קדוש ייאמר לו".
הוא אמר שזהו המבחן הגדול באמונה. בלי קשר אם הם נמצאים בירושלים או לא, רבים ייכשלו במבחן. הוא הדגיש שכולנו צריכים להתחזק באמונה יותר ויותר.
הוא אמר שהסיבה שהנוצרים יבואו לירושלים היא בגלל ש"מזלייהו חזי" שהאמת עומדת להתגלות בעולם, ובגלל זה הם ינסו לטמא בטומאתם כל דבר קדוש בירושלים, אפילו את הדברים הקדושים ביותר.
אחרי שהם יפגעו בירושלים - השם ייצא ויילחם בהם בעצמו - ואז המשיח יבוא.
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| | אורח | תודה רבה לדניאלPosted: 29/8/05 9:58 | |
| תודה רבה לדינאל על העדכונים נקווה שמדי פעם שיש עדכון חדש נשמח לקרוא אותו
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| | עבד ה' | דניאל...Posted: 30/8/05 6:01 | |
| אשרייך דניאל...
כשאני שומע דברים כאלה אני מתחזק עוד יותר.....
אנא ממך תחדש אותנו בעוד עידכונים....
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| | אורח | בקשר לרב שניבא את הצונמיPosted: 31/8/05 1:30 | |
| דניאל שלום 
יש לי שאלה כיצד הרב שניבא את הצונמי מקבל את הנבואות
האם הרב מקבל את הנבואה בחלום או בדרך אחרת
אשמח לקבל תשובה
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| | דניאל | RE: בקשר לרב שניבא את הצונמיPosted: 31/8/05 1:48 | |
| | quoting אורח: | דניאל שלום
יש לי שאלה כיצד הרב שניבא את הצונמי מקבל את הנבואות
האם הרב מקבל את הנבואה בחלום או בדרך אחרת
אשמח לקבל תשובה |
אין לי שמץ של מושג. פעם כתבתי כבר שהוא אמר ש"גילו לו משמיים" מדוע הגאולה מתעכבת, ראה כאן, אבל לא שמעתי שהוא אמר איך אמרו לו. אני אנסה לשאול בשבוע הבא את המקור שלי אם הוא אמר אי פעם משהו לגבי זה למרות שלא נראה לי. הוא רב מקובל אם זה אומר משהו.
(English: I was asked how does this Rabbi get his predictions, by dreams or by other means, and I answered that I have no idea)
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| | יוסי | News !!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted: 31/8/05 8:18 | |
| בס"ד
שלום לכולם ............
חברים יקרים ,
כנראה שזה מתקרב...
הבוקר כשנסעתי ראיתי את הנהג אוחז בעיתון ידוע ובכותרת כתוב שלארה"ב יש הוכחות חותכות לכך שנשיא סוריה מעורב ברצח ממשלת לבנון (חרירי) ולכן היא תפעל להדחתו.
אולי בקרוב נראה את צבא ארה"ב על אדמת ישראל שבא ע"מ לטפל בסורים , אבל מסובב הסיבות יגרום לכך שהכל יופנה לבסוף לירושלים ???
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| | J | Netanyahu: the battle on Jerusalem has begunPosted: 31/8/05 9:37 | |
| Quoted in ynet http://www.ynet.co.il/Ext/Comp/CdaNewsFlas...4,00.html:
the battle on Jerusalem has begun, Jerusalem is in danger, and Sharon made it worse when he chose to expell Jews to the boundaries of 1967.
Sharon is currently freezing Jewish building arround Jerusalem, and the Palestinians are taking advantage of this.
It seems now that Rabbi BT and the Tsunami Rabbi were right all along, and Sharon did agree to return to the 1967 boundaries.
YERUSHALAYIM SHELANU!!!!
ירושלים שלנו לנצח!!!!
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| | שוקי | Frankly, I don't trust Netanyahu anymorePosted: 31/8/05 10:27 | |
| Frankly, I don't trust Netanyahu.
We can't be suckers anymore.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Netanyahu? Wrong threadPosted: 31/8/05 19:52 | |
| Please try to put comments in the appropriate thread. Thanks.
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| | K.D | IS THRE ....?Posted: 3/9/05 20:37 | |
| DEAR DANIEL
IS THERE ANY NEWS FROM THE RABBI WHO PREDICTED TZUNAMI?-- PLEASE LET US KNOW.
THANK YOU AND "CHODESH TOV" AND "SHAVUA TOV"
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| | אורח | לדניאלPosted: 3/9/05 21:37 | |
| גם אני מחכה בסבלנות לחידושים מהרב שניבא את הצונמי וכמובן בעברית
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| | דניאל | I don't know if you can call this an updatePosted: 5/9/05 1:25 | |
| English first:
This week also there weren't any major news, if any.
The Rav talked about the hurricane in the US and he joined those who say that it came because of what they did to Gush Katif, measure against measure. Then he talked about the divine tendency to sentence in water (like the flood or the egyptians), and that in the future we'll see whole countries wiped out by water (he didn't say if it's far or close future, so this info is actually known), and he said that it'll be done in many different methods: like we saw once drowning and destruction through a tsunami and once drowning and destruction through a hurricane, we'll be surprised in the future by other methods in which the goyim will be sentenced in water.
From one of the things that the Rav said, my source understood that he'd prefer the year 5766 won't come, but rather that 5767 will come instead.
My source claims that many times it seems to him that the Rav is going to talk about Moshiach topics, but the audience changed the subject with questions about halacha and so on. Although this was hard for me to believe, it yet seems that the audience there is more interested in halacha than hearing tomorrow's news.
Chodesh Elul Tov Umevorach!
Now Hebrew
עכשיו עברית:
גם השבוע לא היה ממש הרבה חידושים, אם בכלל.
הרב דיבר על ההוריקן בארה"ב ואמר גם הוא שזה בא להם בגלל מה שעשו לגוש קטיף, מידה כנגד מידה (הוא גם הזכיר שיש שם הרבה אנטישמיות וניאו-נאצים). אח"כ הוא דיבר על זה שיש כביכול נטייה של הקב"ה לדון במיים (כמו המבול, או המצרים), ובעתיד נראה מדינות שלמות נמחקות מהיבשה באמצעות מים (הוא לא הגדיר אם מדובר בעתיד קרוב או רחוק, אז בסה"כ זה דברים ידועים), והוא אמר שהקב"ה יעשה את בהרבה דרכים שונות. זאת אומרת כמו שראינו פעם טביעה והרס בצונאמי ופעם טביעה והרס בהוריקן, כך נופתע בעתיד דרכים אחרות שהקב"ה יביא כדי לדון את הגויים במיים.
מאחת ההתבטאויות שלו המקור שלי הבין שהרב היה מעדיף ששנת תשס"ו לא תבוא בכלל אלא תגיע ישר שנת תשס"ז.
המקור שלי טוען שהרבה פעמים נראה לו שהרב מתכוון לדבר על הנושאים האלה, ובא להמשיך, אבל הקהל משנה את הנושא בשאלה על הלכות וכדומה. למרות שקשה היה לי להאמין, בכל זאת נראה שהקהל שם באמת מעוניין יותר בהלכות מאשר בלשמוע את החדשות של מחר.
חודש אלול טוב ומבורך.
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| | devorah | Posted: 5/9/05 1:43 | |
| Thank you for the predictions.... does this Rav have a name?
So many confusing predictions... first we hear that the year 5766 is the year of the geula, and now we hear that this Rav would prefer if we could jump straight to 5767....
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| | דניאל | Re: confusingPosted: 5/9/05 1:57 | |
| | quoting devorah: | Thank you for the predictions.... does this Rav have a name?
So many confusing predictions... first we hear that the year 5766 is the year of the geula, and now we hear that this Rav would prefer if we could jump straight to 5767.... |
1. I can't give his name, I gave already all the info I could give about who he is.
2. Nothing looks confusing to me, he said that this year Yerushalayim will take 5000 times the sorrow of Gush Katif, and there will be a huge test of emuna. Didn't our Sages said ייתי ולא אחמיניה (I don't want to be here when he comes)? I think he meant that in 5767 the troubles will all be over, while 5766 is probably עת צרה היא ליעקב וממנה יוושע. He did say that the last Tisha BAv was the last Tisha BAv that we needed to fast, so the geula is close, but be'ita, with troubles, especially in Jerusalem and in the emuna.
Chodesh Elul Tov Umvorach!
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| | עבד ה' | לדניאל...Posted: 5/9/05 2:43 | |
| דניאל אם אתה יכול צור איתי קשר במסנג'ר
shayaniger@hotmail.co.il
יעקב נתן הצדיק אני מבקש סליחה אם זה לא במקום.
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| | Me | Re: Malachim over Yerushalyim & WaterPosted: 7/9/05 17:18 | |
| Is no one else making the connection between these postings, or am I a little crazier than I thought?
When the Malachim arise from the Temple Mount and the arabs claim them as their sign from Shomayim, THIS is why the nations of the world will converge on Yerushalayim. With all the clamoring to claim the Malachim as their own, everyone will be trying to erase evidence of Torah and Judaism from the area because it's the TRUTH, and the worlds don't want the truth. They want power.
Water is either a purifier or a punishment. The streams that pour forth from Yerushalayim and the Temple Mount will be a mikveh to those whose emunah is strong enough to withstand these tests; the floods caused by hurricanes, tsunamis, portions of continents falling in earthquakes, are a punishment - measure-for-measure, proportionally - to those who persecute HaShem's own. Proportionally speaking, how many Jews have been lost in the tsunami and Katrina? HaShem watches His own.
Perhaps the Rav hopes for 5767 before 5766 because next year is when this takes place? It will not be an easy time, physically. We will - physically - be caught up in a spiritual war raging about us, Jew and gentile alike. Those who are not "in touch" with the differences between their physical selves and their spiritual selves can easily be distracted (by their physicality) from staying focused on Shomayim and trusting HaSHEM.
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| | Realist | RE: Re: Malachim over Yerushalyim & WaterPosted: 7/9/05 18:25 | |
| | quoting Me: |
Water is either a purifier or a punishment. |
Or both at the same time.
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| | J | RE: Re: Malachim over Yerushalyim & WaterPosted: 8/9/05 7:46 | |
| | quoting Me: | Is no one else making the connection between these postings, or am I a little crazier than I thought?
When the Malachim arise from the Temple Mount and the arabs claim them as their sign from Shomayim, THIS is why the nations of the world will converge on Yerushalayim. With all the clamoring to claim the Malachim as their own, everyone will be trying to erase evidence of Torah and Judaism from the area because it's the TRUTH, and the worlds don't want the truth. They want power. |
Actually, I didn't think about it until now. I just thought this won't come true (because Daniel said it may be not applicable anymore). I just thought there will be rockets over Jerusalem by Arabs, and the UN and US will intervene with a multinational force that will come to Jerusalem. But now that you mention it, this can really be it. It can explain the opinion that I think I read once in Rabbi Lazer Brody's site that it's all going to be a spiritual battle. Anyway, if this is a test of faith, it probably means that the Malachim will do something that will make people somehow understand that they are not in the Jewish side. Just my thought.
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| | שוקי | the test of faith has already startedPosted: 8/9/05 13:34 | |
| People (parve religious jews and even people who claim to be dati-leumi, or shas, or haredi) are already losing faith in 'leadership ' in general, and perhaps the Rabbis as well. Yet, at the same time, there is also a great spiritual awakening.
chazak chazak v'nitzhazek
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| | אורח | לדניאלPosted: 9/9/05 1:17 | |
| שלום לדניאל
תשאל את הרב מה עם הביתי כנסת שעומדים להרוס 
שבת שלום ובשורות טובות
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| | davidh | לגבי: Re: confusingPosted: 14/9/05 14:42 | |
| | quoting דניאל: | | quoting devorah: | Thank you for the predictions.... does this Rav have a name?
So many confusing predictions... first we hear that the year 5766 is the year of the geula, and now we hear that this Rav would prefer if we could jump straight to 5767.... |
1. I can't give his name, I gave already all the info I could give about who he is.
2. Nothing looks confusing to me, he said that this year Yerushalayim will take 5000 times the sorrow of Gush Katif, and there will be a huge test of emuna. Didn't our Sages said ייתי ולא אחמיניה (I don't want to be here when he comes)? I think he meant that in 5767 the troubles will all be over, while 5766 is probably עת צרה היא ליעקב וממנה יוושע. He did say that the last Tisha BAv was the last Tisha BAv that we needed to fast, so the geula is close, but be'ita, with troubles, especially in Jerusalem and in the emuna.
Chodesh Elul Tov Umvorach! |
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| | דניאל | Second not much of an update 9/17Posted: 19/9/05 2:29 | |
| Shalom,
According to my source the Rav did not comment directly on Rav Kaduri's words, and did not mention him, but he continued to talk about the water that are going to flood the world, and that the name Elokim is implying to that (א-להים is: א-ל and הים). He quoted from an old book, that my source can't seem to remember its name, that says that either in 5765 or in 5766 the water will flood the world (I know for my self that Yalkut Re'uveni brings this, but the time that's given there is 240 years before the seventh millenia, which was in 5760, so this is probably another book).
Commenting on Katrina and New Orleans situation, he said that what we saw in Katrina was the first stage of the future flooding. Hashem does not want to bring the "big" things at once, he desires to bring these פורענויות (punishments?) gradually, so just so that we understand: Katrina was only the VERY FIRST stage, the first taste if you want, from what Hashem is preparing for the world. According to what the Rabbi said, these events will all happen within the year.
That's all.
Hebrew:
לפי המקור שלי, הרב לא דיבר ישירות אודות דבריו של הרב כדורי שליט"א, ולא הזכיר אותם. הוא המשיך לדבר אודות המיים שעומדים להציף את העולם, ואמר ששם א-להים רומז לכך (א-להים זה א-ל + הים). הוא ציטט ספר עתיק, שהמקור שלי לא זוכר את שמו, שאומר שבשנת תשס"ה או בשנת תשס"ו המיים יציפו את העולם (אני מכיר את הילקוט ראובני שמביא דבר דומה שאמור היה לקרות ר"מ שנים לפני האלף השביעי, כלומר בתש"ס, אבל זה כנראה ספר אחר).
כשהוא דיבר על מה שקרה עם קטרינה בניו אורלינס, הוא אמר שמה שראינו בקטרינה היה השלב הראשון מההצפה העתידה לבוא. הקב"ה לא רוצה להביא לעולם את הדברים במלוא עוצמתם בבת אחת. הוא מעדיף להביא את הפורענויות הללו בהדרגתיות, אז כדי שנבין: קטרינה היתה רק השלב ההתחלתי, או הטעימה הראשונה אם תרצו, ממה שהקב"ה מכין לעולם. לפי דברי הרב, האירועים הללו יקרו כולם במהלך השנה.
זה הכל.
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| | True Realist | when did it "start"?Posted: 19/9/05 7:58 | |
| It "started" with the Asian tsunami. Katrina is the second event. It's important that this be understood.
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| | J | RE: when did it "start"?Posted: 19/9/05 10:56 | |
| | quoting True Realist: | | It "started" with the Asian tsunami. Katrina is the second event. It's important that this be understood. |
I think you're more right than you think, but only time will prove.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | This year: 5765?Posted: 19/9/05 19:56 | |
| | quoting דניאל: | ...According to what the Rabbi said, these events will all happen within the year.
לפי דברי הרב, האירועים הללו יקרו כולם במהלך השנה.
זה הכל. |
Meaning 5765? In the next two weeks?
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| | J | RE: This year: 5765?Posted: 19/9/05 20:57 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting דניאל: | ...According to what the Rabbi said, these events will all happen within the year.
לפי דברי הרב, האירועים הללו יקרו כולם במהלך השנה.
זה הכל. |
Meaning 5765? In the next two weeks? |
I believe he meant 5766, or maybe within a year.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: when did it "start"?Posted: 19/9/05 22:38 | |
| | quoting True Realist: | | It "started" with the Asian tsunami. Katrina is the second event. It's important that this be understood. |
Why do you say that this is important?
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: literally a flood?Posted: 19/9/05 22:45 | |
| | quoting דניאל: | Shalom,
According to my source the Rav did not comment directly on Rav Kaduri's words, and did not mention him, but he continued to talk about the water that are going to flood the world, and that the name Elokim is implying to that (א-להים is: א-ל and הים). He quoted from an old book, that my source can't seem to remember its name, that says that either in 5765 or in 5766 the water will flood the world (I know for my self that Yalkut Re'uveni brings this, but the time that's given there is 240 years before the seventh millenia, which was in 5760, so this is probably another book).
Commenting on Katrina and New Orleans situation, he said that what we saw in Katrina was the first stage of the future flooding. Hashem does not want to bring the "big" things at once, he desires to bring these פורענויות (punishments?) gradually, so just so that we understand: Katrina was only the VERY FIRST stage, the first taste if you want, from what Hashem is preparing for the world. According to what the Rabbi said, these events will all happen within the year.
That's all.
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Could this be related?
| Quote: | | The words of Torah are compared to water, as it says: (Yeshaya 55:1) "Behold, all who are thirsty, come to the water" - to teach you that just as water does not collect on an incline, rather flows on its own and collects at a low place - similarly the words of Torah are not found among the haughty nor in the hearts of the arrogant, rather in the humble and the lowly person who sits in the dust at the feet of the sages and removes his desires and temporal pleasures from his heart http://www.torah.org/learning/rambam/talmudtorah/tt3.9.html |
On the other hand we say ain mikrei yotzei miidai peshuto (scripture does not go out from its literal meaning). Does this principle apply universally to the entire Torah including these Kabbalistic sources? (We know for example that there are some midrashim that are certainly not taken literally - such as those of Rabbah Bar Bar Chana iirc)?
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| | Yaakov Nathan | FloodsPosted: 19/9/05 22:53 | |
| The physical and the spiritual are tied together.
The spiritual flood will result in physcial floods.
If people merit, Hashem will lead them to high ground. But the earth is going to shift tremendously (as it already has in the distant past) and it is not a matter of preventing it or teiching it away, but to making the transition smooth.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | another sourcePosted: 19/9/05 23:07 | |
| | Quote: | | "Water" is a reference to Torah: Temurah 16a |
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| | Yaakov Nathan | RE: another sourcePosted: 19/9/05 23:10 | |
| | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | | Quote: | | "Water" is a reference to Torah: Temurah 16a |
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Yes, and Torah creates the world. As the Rebbe says, it is the revelation of Toraso shel Moshiach ("Torah chadasha m'iti sietzeh") that is going to result in the new world described by the novi.
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| | שוקי | two weeks left of Elul=14 lifetimesPosted: 20/9/05 0:33 | |
| If someone says in 5765, why is there so much disbelief that 'something' can happen in the next fourteen days???
Each day is a lifetime.
Each day you go to sleep, (i.e. die for all intents and purposes), and have no clue you will wake up the next morning. So in fact, the next morning, you are reborn.
Some people wait each year until rosh hashana to do soul-searching/cheshbon nefesh, though we really should do it every night before falling asleep.
In 'Shaarei tshuva' that if someone does a mitzvah before their death, it's as if they've performed the whole torah. Likewise, if you do an aveira that day, it's as if you did bitul of the whole torah.
We learn in many books that, frankly, we don't know when are time is up on earth, so we can't wait until a certain time to do 'tshuva'.
14 days left until judgement day. 14 lifetimes.
If you want to be a stickler, the world was created on the 25th of Elul (nine days away). It was simply inaugurated on rosh hashana.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Actually....Posted: 20/9/05 3:18 | |
| Several "actually"s, actually:
1) Actually, I was hoping that he meant this year.
2) Actually, it is explained in Chassidus that all the the hashpa'a that we bring down on Rosh Hashana comes from the tshuva we do during Elul. (On Rosh Hashana we don't do tshuva, to such an extent that we don't have any vidui or tachanun, and we are not supposed to mention our shortcomings at all.)
3) Actually, Rosh Hashana is the sixth day of Creation, the day Adam Harishon was formed. Since Adam was the purpose of Creation, this is the day we refer to as "hayom haras ha'olam" since without Adam (and his descendents, Yisroel) there is no reason for the world's creation.
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| | J | RE: Actually....Posted: 20/9/05 3:32 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | Several "actually"s, actually:
3) Actually, Rosh Hashana is the sixth day of Creation, the day Adam Harishon was formed. Since Adam was the purpose of Creation, this is the day we refer to as "hayom haras ha'olam" since without Adam (and his descendents, Yisroel) there is no reason for the world's creation. |
Actually, in our Sages words every human (Adam) is a whole world, so actually creation of Adam is the creation of a whole world. Actually
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: the value ManPosted: 20/9/05 6:07 | |
| | quoting J: | | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | Several "actually"s, actually:
3) Actually, Rosh Hashana is the sixth day of Creation, the day Adam Harishon was formed. Since Adam was the purpose of Creation, this is the day we refer to as "hayom haras ha'olam" since without Adam (and his descendents, Yisroel) there is no reason for the world's creation. |
Actually, in our Sages words every human (Adam) is a whole world, so actually creation of Adam is the creation of a whole world. Actually |
Hayom Yom for the 16th of Elul (today)
The Alter Rebbe interpreted the statement, "Whoever saves a single person of (the people) Israel is as though he saved an entire world1": One must perceive a Jew as he stands in the primordial thought of Adam Kadmon. There, each soul stands with all the generations destined to descend from it until the coming of Mashiach, the righteous Redeemer. When one does a favor to an individual, it is a favor to all those souls until the end of all generations.
Compiled and arranged by the Lubavitcher Rebbe in 5703 (1943) from the talks and letters of the Previous Lubavitcher Rebbe.
FOOTNOTES
1. Sanhedrin 37a.
http://www.chabad.org/dailystudy/hayomyom.asp?tDate=9/20/2005
(*Note: In Likutei Sichos 26:138, ftnt.50 the Rebbe brings many sources in Torah suggesting that a Ger Toshav is also considered to be partially Jewish (Rabbeinu Gershom Kerisus 9a; Meiri Yevamos 48b; Gilionei HaShas - Avoda Zara 64b and more. In our times the same may be said of the Bnai Noah, since 'ones Rachmana patrei' 'G-d exempts those who are not able to fulfill a mitzvah')
See also:
www.asknoah.org
www.7for70.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/noahchai/
www.noahide.org
http://webpages.charter.net/chavurathbneinoach/bnei_noach.html
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| | דניאל | Shabat 9/24 not much of an updatePosted: 27/9/05 2:11 | |
| Excuse me for being late. My time in Elul is very limited and it's hard to be in the internet.
There was nothing much this Shabat according to my source, so I won't post in English, only Hebrew (and I don't have time to translate). If anyone finds that something here is worth translating he is invited to do it.
הוא דיבר כנראה חלק מהשיעור על הרב כדורי, ואמר שהדברים שלו מאוד חשובים (הוא לא הזכיר בכלל את האמירה האחרונה לגבי האסונות והעליה, או שהוא לא שמע עליהם או שהוא לא רצה להתייחס), ואמר שכל הדברים של הרב כדורי נכונים והמשיח אכן כבר כאן איתנו, ויש לו מגן דוד במידות שנקב ככל הנראה הרב כדורי. הוא הזכיר שהבן איש חי הקדוש הבטיח לרב כדורי שהוא יזכה לראות את מלך המשיח, והזכיר את העובדה שהיום הרב כדורי הוא האחרון בחיים שראה את הבן איש חי בחייו, והעיר משהו כמו "הוא כבר מאוד מבוגר" (כלומר, שהמשיח קרוב).
לגבי הסופות בארה"ב הוא הזכיר בהקשר מעורפל לזה את הפסוק שמדבר על העברת רוח הטומאה מן הארץ.
הוא קרא לכולם להתחזק הרבה בתורה עוד לפני ראש השנה הקרוב, ואמר שזה מאוד חשוב. הוא קרא להביא עוד אנשים לשיעור שלו, גברים ונשים, ואמר שאפילו משיעור אחד שלו אפשר להוציא מהקליפה בת ישראל, שתאיר לכל ישראל.
הוא אמר שבגלל שהמשיח קרוב, ובגלל האור החזק של המשיח הקרוב, יש הרבה אנשים שחושבים שהם משיח, או שהם קשורים למשיח. הוא סיפר בהקשר זה שאל הרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א באים הרבה אנשים שטוענים שהם משיח (הוא הזכיר שהרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א מקבל את כולם בסבר פנים יפות). פעם הגיע אליו מישהו שאמר שהוא משיח, אז הרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א שאל אותו שאלה באחת המסכתות הקשות, והוא לא ידע לענות, אז הרב אליהו אמר לו שהוא (הרב) כן יודע לענות, אז אולי נכון שהוא יוותר לו על המשיחות שלו, ואותו אדם הסכים "לוותר" לרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א על המשיחות שלו לכבודו...
הוא אמר שיותר אין תחנות של אחישנה לפני הגאולה, ואנו נמצאים במסלול שמוביל אך ורק לגאולה בעיתה, עם כל הכרוך בכך.
שנה טובה ומתוקה לכולם!
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| | Aharon Benjamin | Posted: 27/9/05 2:33 | |
| The Lubavitcher Rebbe also told Rav Kaduri that he will live to see the Moshiach. I didn't realize that the Ben Ish Chai had done so as well.
Also, the last pasuk in last Shaboses haftora was from Isaiah 60:22 w Rashi | Quote: | 22. The smallest shall become a thousand and the least a mighty nation; I am the Lord, in its time I will hasten it.
in its time I will hasten it If they are worthy, I will hasten it; if they are not worthy, it will be in its time. |
I took a look inside and noticed that both the Radak and Malbim comment that in its time I will hasten it, in other words, when the time comes for the geulah, that the Abeshter will hasten the process and make it all take place swiftly and speedily.
May we hear good news.
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| | J | Translation - Shabat 9/24 not much of an updatePosted: 27/9/05 3:48 | |
| Small Translation of -
| quoting דניאל: | Excuse me for being late. My time in Elul is very limited and it's hard to be in the internet.
There was nothing much this Shabat according to my source, so I won't post in English, only Hebrew (and I don't have time to translate). If anyone finds that something here is worth translating he is invited to do it.
הוא דיבר כנראה חלק מהשיעור על הרב כדורי, ואמר שהדברים שלו מאוד חשובים (הוא לא הזכיר בכלל את האמירה האחרונה לגבי האסונות והעליה, או שהוא לא שמע עליהם או שהוא לא רצה להתייחס), ואמר שכל הדברים של הרב כדורי נכונים והמשיח אכן כבר כאן איתנו, ויש לו מגן דוד במידות שנקב ככל הנראה הרב כדורי. הוא הזכיר שהבן איש חי הקדוש הבטיח לרב כדורי שהוא יזכה לראות את מלך המשיח, והזכיר את העובדה שהיום הרב כדורי הוא האחרון בחיים שראה את הבן איש חי בחייו, והעיר משהו כמו "הוא כבר מאוד מבוגר" (כלומר, שהמשיח קרוב).
לגבי הסופות בארה"ב הוא הזכיר בהקשר מעורפל לזה את הפסוק שמדבר על העברת רוח הטומאה מן הארץ.
הוא קרא לכולם להתחזק הרבה בתורה עוד לפני ראש השנה הקרוב, ואמר שזה מאוד חשוב. הוא קרא להביא עוד אנשים לשיעור שלו, גברים ונשים, ואמר שאפילו משיעור אחד שלו אפשר להוציא מהקליפה בת ישראל, שתאיר לכל ישראל.
הוא אמר שבגלל שהמשיח קרוב, ובגלל האור החזק של המשיח הקרוב, יש הרבה אנשים שחושבים שהם משיח, או שהם קשורים למשיח. הוא סיפר בהקשר זה שאל הרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א באים הרבה אנשים שטוענים שהם משיח (הוא הזכיר שהרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א מקבל את כולם בסבר פנים יפות). פעם הגיע אליו מישהו שאמר שהוא משיח, אז הרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א שאל אותו שאלה באחת המסכתות הקשות, והוא לא ידע לענות, אז הרב אליהו אמר לו שהוא (הרב) כן יודע לענות, אז אולי נכון שהוא יוותר לו על המשיחות שלו, ואותו אדם הסכים "לוותר" לרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א על המשיחות שלו לכבודו...
הוא אמר שיותר אין תחנות של אחישנה לפני הגאולה, ואנו נמצאים במסלול שמוביל אך ורק לגאולה בעיתה, עם כל הכרוך בכך.
שנה טובה ומתוקה לכולם! |
Only some points from the above in English:
1. A part of the lesson was on Rav Kaduri, he said his words are very important and repeated the previous things of Rav Kaduri, though he didn't mention the last contraversial saying about disasters and Aliyah at all.
2. He said that the Ben Ish Chay (huge and well known Kabbalistic Rav from Iraq, went to Olam HaBa in the begining of the 20th century) promised to Rav Kaduri that he will see Melech HaMoshiach. Rav Kaduri is currently the last man on earth that was alive in the time of Ben Ish Chay, and he is very old (so redemption is near).
3. Storms in US are somehow related to lifting the impure spirit from earth.
4. The Rav called on everyone to strengthen in Torah even before the coming Rosh HaShana, and said it's very important.
5. The Rav said that because of the big light of Moshiach that is nearing, many think that they are Moshiach, or that they are related to him. He told a story about such people that go to Rav Eliyahu Shlita.
6. He said that there are no more Achishena stops before redemption. We're on the track only to the Be-ita redemption.
And most importantly, Daniel wishes for all of us good and sweet new year
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| | אבי | לדניאל יש לי שאלהPosted: 27/9/05 4:03 | |
| שלום דניאל
יש לי שאלה?
למה הכוונה שהרב אמר ,משיעור אחד שלו אפשר להוציא מהקליפה בת ישראל שתאיר לכל ישראל?.י זה מאוד מעניין ..י
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| | Yaakov Nathan | TranslationPosted: 27/9/05 5:47 | |
| Thanks J., you saved me some time (very important in these days of slichos...)
Perhaps you could translate this sentence?| quoting Daniel: |
המשיח אכן כבר כאן איתנו, ויש לו מגן דוד במידות שנקב ככל הנראה הרב כדורי.
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(Also, everyone is invited to this thead on Geulah B'Itah)
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| | J | RE: TranslationPosted: 27/9/05 5:54 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | Thanks J., you saved me some time (very important in these days of slichos...)
Perhaps you could translate this sentence?| quoting Daniel: |
המשיח אכן כבר כאן איתנו, ויש לו מגן דוד במידות שנקב ככל הנראה הרב כדורי.
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(Also, everyone is invited to this thead on Geulah B'Itah) |
Translation goes something like that:
Moshiach is already with us here, and he has a Magen David (star of David) in measures/size that were stated apparantly by Rav Kaduri.
(Rav Kaduri was quoted sometime ago saying that Moshiach has a Magen David in his clothing, or something like that. It seems according to this that Rav Kaduri also said what was the size of that Magen David)
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Rav Kaduri: Moshiach has ArrivedPosted: 27/9/05 6:02 | |
| Thanks, J. Here is a report about the original report:
Rav Kaduri: Moshiach has Arrived
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Rav Kaduri: Moshiach has Arrived
"After the Sharon government, the Moshiach will come" -- so foresees the Tzaddik, the G-dly Harav Yitzchok Kaduri, shlita. His words were reported in the Israeli newspaper Yediot Achronot.
In the words of the Rav, the Moshiach is already in the Holy Land, and will reveal himself in the future at the moment that is set for him. The Rav revealed to his students that according to calculations of the Vilna Gaon, the war of Gog and Magog began about [three] years ago (on Hoshana Raba 5762 / 2001), and will continue for seven years. During this time, every moment is suited for the Moshiach to reveal himself. (The American War on Terror began on Hoshana Raba when the Americans went into Afghanistan.)
Rav Kaduri has lately been speaking with greater frequency on the revelation of the Moshiach, and he said that signs have already been given for this from Heaven by way of cosmic events, which indicate -- according to the secrets of Torah -- the arrival of the benevolent end of days. "The world continues on and is being sweetened" -- thus is the Rav accustomed to addressing his students.
The revelation of the Moshiach, according to the Rav, will rescue Jerusalem from the hands of Islam and Xtianity, both of which seek to overwhelm Jerusalem and wrest ownership of her away from the Jewish people; but their ways will not succeed and they will wage war against each other. The Rav revealed that hidden in the garments of Moshiach is a Magen-David which grants him the power to conduct himself in a concealed way.
As will be remembered, at the time of the meeting between Rav Kaduri, shlita and the Lubavitcher Rebbe more than 12 years ago, the Rebbe said to him that he would merit to live until the revelation of Moshiach.
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הרב כדורי: המשיח הגיע
"אחרי הממשלה של שרון יבוא המשיח" - כך מנבא הרב הצדיק האלוקי יצחק כדורי שליט"א. דבריו התפרסמו בעיתון ידיעות אחרונות.
לדיברי הרב, המשיח כבר נימצא בארץ הקודש ועתיד להתגלות בעיתוי שניקבע לו. הרב גילה לתלמידיו כי לפי החשבון שערך הגאון מוילנא החלה מילחמת גוג ומגוג ליפני כ - 4 שנים, בהושענא רבא של מוצאי שנת השמיטה האחרונה והיא עתידה להמשך 7 שנים שבמהלכן בכל רגע עשוי המשיח להתגלות. (המיתקפה האמריקאית על הטירור העולמי החלה ביום זה כשפשטו האמריקאים על אפגאניסטאן).
הרב כדורי מרבה באחרונה לדבר על התגלותו של המשיח ואמר כי כבר ניתנו סימנים לכך מהשמיים על ידי c מאורעות קוסמיים המבשרים על פי תורת הסוד את הגעתו של הקץ הטוב. "העולם הולך ומתמתק" - כך נוהג הרב להגיד לתלמידיו.
התגלותו של המשיח לדיברי הרב תביא להצלתה של ירושליים מידי האיסלם והנצרות המבקשים לתבוע את ירושליים ולהפקיעה אותה מהעם היהודי, אך דרכם לא תיצלח והם ילחמו אחד בשני. הרב גילה כי במלבושיו של המשיח חבוי מגן-דוד המעניק לו כח הנהגה ניסתר.
כזכור, בעת פגישתו של הרב כדורי שליט"א עם הרבי מלובביץ ליפני כ- 12 שנים אמר לו הרבי כי יזכה לחיות עד התגלותו של המשיח. (ניתן ליראות באתר את סרט הוידאו מהפגישה).
http://kaduri.net/Index.asp?ArticleID=382&...amp;Page=1
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: Translation - Shabat 9/24 not much of an updatePosted: 27/9/05 7:52 | |
| | quoting J: | Only some points from the above in English:
1. A part of the lesson was on Rav Kaduri, he said his words are very important and repeated the previous things of Rav Kaduri, though he didn't mention the last contraversial saying about disasters and Aliyah at all.
2. He said that the Ben Ish Chay (huge and well known Kabbalistic Rav from Iraq, went to Olam HaBa in the begining of the 20th century) promised to Rav Kaduri that he will see Melech HaMoshiach. Rav Kaduri is currently the last man on earth that was alive in the time of Ben Ish Chay, and he is very old (so redemption is near).
3. Storms in US are somehow related to lifting the impure spirit from earth.
4. The Rav called on everyone to strengthen in Torah even before the coming Rosh HaShana, and said it's very important.
5. The Rav said that because of the big light of Moshiach that is nearing, many think that they are Moshiach, or that they are related to him. He told a story about such people that go to Rav Eliyahu Shlita.
6. He said that there are no more Achishena stops before redemption. We're on the track only to the Be-ita redemption.
And most importantly, Daniel wishes for all of us good and sweet new year |
I'm wondering how point #6 may be reconciled with teachings from the Lubavitcher Rebbe, such as his sicha from 5751 Ki Tavo, in which the Rebbe said that a Jew has the ability to nullify the exile - and bring the revelation of Moshiach immediately etc.
Perhaps what the Rav means is that even if we will be zoche to bring Moshiach immediately - that the geulah will still be in an ofen of beita vis-a-vis the fallen sparks, which will all be elevated.
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| | רפאל | RE: Translation - Shabat 9/24 not much of an updatePosted: 27/9/05 9:53 | |
| | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | | quoting J: | Only some points from the above in English:
1. A part of the lesson was on Rav Kaduri, he said his words are very important and repeated the previous things of Rav Kaduri, though he didn't mention the last contraversial saying about disasters and Aliyah at all.
2. He said that the Ben Ish Chay (huge and well known Kabbalistic Rav from Iraq, went to Olam HaBa in the begining of the 20th century) promised to Rav Kaduri that he will see Melech HaMoshiach. Rav Kaduri is currently the last man on earth that was alive in the time of Ben Ish Chay, and he is very old (so redemption is near).
3. Storms in US are somehow related to lifting the impure spirit from earth.
4. The Rav called on everyone to strengthen in Torah even before the coming Rosh HaShana, and said it's very important.
5. The Rav said that because of the big light of Moshiach that is nearing, many think that they are Moshiach, or that they are related to him. He told a story about such people that go to Rav Eliyahu Shlita.
6. He said that there are no more Achishena stops before redemption. We're on the track only to the Be-ita redemption.
And most importantly, Daniel wishes for all of us good and sweet new year |
I'm wondering how point #6 may be reconciled with teachings from the Lubavitcher Rebbe, such as his sicha from 5751 Ki Tavo, in which the Rebbe said that a Jew has the ability to nullify the exile - and bring the revelation of Moshiach immediately etc.
Perhaps what the Rav means is that even if we will be zoche to bring Moshiach immediately - that the geulah will still be in an ofen of beita vis-a-vis the fallen sparks, which will all be elevated. |
No, he surely means the exact opposite. The geula will be beita, at the time of beita. All we can do now is minimize the suffering. This used to be different, of course. Perhaps it was still different in 5751. Perhaps, because in truth I do not think so.
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| | E.N. | where and when this Rav speaking?Posted: 27/9/05 11:53 | |
| I would like to visit Daniel's Rav lesson ,
but where and when I should go??
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: Translation - Shabat 9/24 not much of an updatePosted: 29/9/05 8:22 | |
| | quoting רפאל: | | No, he surely means the exact opposite. The geula will be beita, at the time of beita. All we can do now is minimize the suffering. This used to be different, of course. Perhaps it was still different in 5751. Perhaps, because in truth I do not think so. |
How do you know that this is what he means? How do you know that he would disagree with the perush of the Mittler Rebbe brought by R'Yankel Nosson ?(recently on another thread)
BTW By hashgacha pratis I heard in a shiur this evening given by Rabbi Weisberg that on Acharon Shel Pesach 5722 the Lubavitcher Rebbe spoke about Achishena within Beita gufa (al derech the pirush of the Redak and the Malbim on the pasuk in Isaiah 60:22)
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Threads JoinedPosted: 30/9/05 5:02 | |
| It might be noticed that suddenly this thread is much longer than it was. I joined it with the original thread, in which Ani Maamin translated Daniel's earlier posts from the Hebrew forum. Now everything is in one place.
Additionally, I created a "sticky" thread (closed to comments) where I will collect all of Daniel's updates from this mekubal Rav so that they are easy to find.
Ksiva v'chasima tova
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| | J | RE: Threads JoinedPosted: 30/9/05 5:56 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | Additionally, I created a "sticky" thread (closed to comments) where I will collect all of Daniel's updates from this mekubal Rav so that they are easy to find. |
Nice work.
However, I think you missed one of Daniel's "updates", where the Rav says that this ט באב is the last one to fast in (and I think it's very important update, because if it's true - the timeframe of Geula is limited more than what the Gerrer Rebbe said).
http://ledavid.com/deot/viewtopic.php?t=473
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| | Yaakov Nathan | RE: ט באבPosted: 30/9/05 6:07 | |
| | quoting J: | Nice work.
However, I think you missed one of Daniel's "updates", where the Rav says that this ט באב is the last one to fast in (and I think it's very important update, because if it's true - the timeframe of Geula is limited more than what the Gerrer Rebbe said). |
Thanks. The ט באב comment is there, on the bottom of the SEPT 4 update.
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| | רפאל | RE: Translation - Shabat 9/24 not much of an updatePosted: 30/9/05 6:12 | |
| | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | | quoting רפאל: | | No, he surely means the exact opposite. The geula will be beita, at the time of beita. All we can do now is minimize the suffering. This used to be different, of course. Perhaps it was still different in 5751. Perhaps, because in truth I do not think so. |
How do you know that this is what he means? How do you know that he would disagree with the perush of the Mittler Rebbe brought by R'Yankel Nosson ?(recently on another thread)
BTW By hashgacha pratis I heard in a shiur this evening given by Rabbi Weisberg that on Acharon Shel Pesach 5722 the Lubavitcher Rebbe spoke about Achishena within Beita gufa (al derech the pirush of the Redak and the Malbim on the pasuk in Isaiah 60:22) |
We know that Geula Be-ita will be Achishena. That is the pshat of the pasuk. It means that our merits will be taken into account, and trouble will be reduced and shortened.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: Translation - Shabat 9/24 not much of an updatePosted: 30/9/05 9:04 | |
| | quoting רפאל: |
We know that Geula Be-ita will be Achishena. That is the pshat of the pasuk. It means that our merits will be taken into account, and trouble will be reduced and shortened. |
Amen.
It is the pshat according to the Redak and the Malbim, however Rashi interprets it differently.
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| | דניאל | Nothing new to reportPosted: 3/10/05 9:11 | |
| Sorry. There was no talk by him on the Geula this Shabbas. Be sure that if there is something to update, I will love to update you (when I have the time, bli neder, as early as I can).
שנה טובה לכל עם ישראל!
לשנה טובה תיכתבו ותיחתמו
שנת גאולת ישראל
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| | J | RE: Nothing new to reportPosted: 10/10/05 12:32 | |
| For Lamed.Gimal:
| quoting דניאל: | | Be sure that if there is something to update, I will love to update you (when I have the time, bli neder, as early as I can). |
We are in 10 Yemey Teshuva, most people don't have time for internet. I'm sure Daniel would've update us if he had something to update, you don't have to write here for him, as he as proved himself as עקבי in updating us.
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| | דניאל | Latest from the Rav that foresaw the TsunamiPosted: 16/10/05 2:02 | |
| I thought this update was important enough to open a new thread for it. This is from Tishrey 12.
English first:
According to my source, the Rav said today in the lesson that HaShem's way with the great Son'ey Yisrael before Israel having Geula, is to give them more and more a feeling of superiority, until they felt themselves elevated to a level of god (no capital G, because this is Avoda Zara), as was the case with Par'oh ("לי יאורי ואני עשיתיני"), and as will be the case with Gog. This gog that we're talking about, according to the Rav, is the third and last Gog. He said that this Gog had already conquered Iraq. When he said this he was asked by the audience if he means that George Bush is this Gog, and he said clearly: Yes, George Bush is Gog. He said that Gog will conquer Paras (Iran), and my source doesn't remember but he thinks that there were more places mentioned (he thinks Pakistan was mentioned, but not sure at all). Gog's occupations will grow his self sense of power more and more, because he will reach a feeling that everyone that he makes war with, falls before him. Actually, he will have control of most of the world (apparently this doesn't mean that he'll occupy the whole world, but most of the world will cooperate with him), and this is why he will reach a feeling of godhood, and no one will be able to stand against him.
The only one that will be able to stand against Gog will be Moshiach, when he comes.
Eventually, this Gog will come with all the nations of the world to a war over Jeusalem. There is no way to prevent the war over Jerusalem, and it must happen. HaShem's target in bringing these foreign armies to a war over Jereusalem is to show both the Goyim and the people of Israel how Jerusalem is precious and important.
Apparently, according to what been said, it seems that only there will be the falling of Gog, after the feeling that people will have that he is invincible.
Something else: when I talked to my source about the things that Rav Batzri said on Rosh HaShana, he remembered that the Rav said in another lesson (even before) that 5766 will be a good year to Israel economically speaking, and a new economical source will open for Israel, and the source won't be from the US.
Shavua Tov.
ועכשיו בעברית:
שבוע טוב,
לפי המקור שלי, הרב דיבר היום בשיעור על כך שדרכו של הקב"ה עם שונאי ישראל הגדולים, לפני גאולה של ישראל, לתת להם הרגשת עליונות עוד ועוד עד שירגישו בעצמם שהם בדרגת אלוה, כמו שהיה למשל עם פרעה ("לי יאורי ואני עשיתיני"), וכך יהיה גם עם גוג. הגוג הזה שמדובר בו, לפי דברי הרב, הוא הגוג השלישי והאחרון. הוא אמר שגוג הזה כבר כבש את עירק. כשהוא אמר את זה שאלו אותו בקהל אם הוא מתכוון שג'ורג' בוש הוא הגוג הזה, והוא ענה באופן מפורש: כן, ג'ורג' בוש הוא גוג. הוא אמר שגוג יכבוש את פרס (איראן), והמקור שלי לא זוכר אבל נדמה לו שדובר על עוד מקומות (נדמה לו שנאמר "פקיסטן"), הכיבושים של גוג יגבירו אצלו את הרגשת העוצמה והגדולה העצמית יותר ויותר, כי הוא יגיע להרגשה שכל מי שהוא נלחם נגדו - נופל לפניו. למעשה, תהיה לו שליטה על רוב העולם (ככל הנראה, לא שהוא יכבוש את רוב העולם, אלא שרוב העולם ישתפו איתו פעולה), ולכן הוא יגיע להרגשת אלוה, ואכן אף אחד לא יוכל לו.
היחיד שיוכל לעמוד מול גוג, יהיה המשיח, כאשר הוא יבוא.
בסופו של דבר, הגוג הזה יבוא עם כל אומות העולם למלחמה על ירושלים. אין דרך למנוע את המלחמה על ירושלים, והיא חייבת לקרות. המטרה של הקב"ה בהבאת צבאות זרים למלחמה על ירושלים, היא כדי להראות גם לגויים וגם לעם ישראל כמה יקרה וכמה חשובה היא ירושלים עיר הקודש.
ככל הנראה, עפ"י הדברים נראה שרק שם תהיה המפלה של גוג, לאחר שתהיה הרגשה שהוא בלתי מנוצח ואי אפשר לעמוד נגדו.
בעניין אחר, כשדיברתי עם המקור שלי לגבי הדברים שאמר הרב בצרי בראש השנה, הוא נזכר שהרב אמר בשיעור אחר (עוד לפני זה) ששנת תשס"ו תהיה שנה טובה לישראל מבחינה כלכלית, ושייפתח לה מקור כלכלי אחר - שהוא לא ארה"ב.
אני מצטער, בזמן האחרון אני פחות נמצא באינטרנט, אבל אני בלי נדר אעדכן כשיהיה משהו.
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| | Thanks | Posted: 16/10/05 4:56 | |
| Thanks for the update!
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| | shlomoeliyahu | HOLY MOLY!!!Posted: 16/10/05 22:01 | |
| Thank G-d I had the schoot of coming to Yeshiva several years ago!!! We must do as many mitzvos as possible, and I think we need to go try to find tzaddikim to help us do our tikkinum and the mitzvos that apply most to us. For me I think, but have not asked but I think my mitzvah could be tzeddaka, so I pray to HAshem to increase my ability to give Tzedaka!
But I want to ask a huge rav! I have ben azman now, does anyone know any Rav like Rav Pinto perhaps that can email me with how to get a meeting? Also my for my chavrusa as well!!!
mrsmith at cybertouch.org
thanks
kol tuv!! Chag Smayach!
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| | BK | Posted: 17/10/05 2:06 | |
| Daniel: this is some truly amazing stuff - but why can you not reveal the name of this mysterious Rav?
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| | Josh | InterestingPosted: 17/10/05 3:52 | |
| I still object to calling this rav "the rav that predicted the tsunami" because what he said was extremely vague.
The part about Gog's growing sense of power, occupations, and cooperation with other nations doesn't seem like much of a prediction, because it's basically a description of the current situation. Anyone else could have said the same thing.
The invasion of Paras and war over Jerusalem, though, have not happened yet and are pretty specific, so unless he means them in a spiritual sense, these things should be easy to verify. And I wonder if the new economical source could be the oil that that guy is looking for....
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| | Elisheva | Already amazing Gog doesn't seePosted: 17/10/05 6:02 | |
| B"H
Well, I find it already amazing, what with Katrina, Rita, the other problems, that Gog MaBush does not already see that he is not so powerful.
He is making a mess of everything he touches!
By the way, the Jewish community in New Orleans has decided NOT to go back.
Thus, no merits to keep it safe in future.
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| | Dvir N. | Posted: 17/10/05 14:20 | |
| Unfortunately many in the religious community also see it as a natural occurrence.
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| | shay | | | דניאל | Latest update from the RavPosted: 23/10/05 16:22 | |
| This is the latest from the Rav (from Shabat Chol HaMo'ed).
I'm sorry, I'm only posting this time in Hebrew, I'll put some of it in brief in English, because it's hard to translate this.
Hebrew:
הרב הזכיר בשיעור האחרון כמה דברים.
בהתחלה שאלו אותו על שפעת העופות. הוא ענה ששפעת העופות קשורה למה שכתוב בגמרא "אין בן דוד בא עד שיתבקש דג לחולה ולא יימצא". הוא הסביר (והמקור שלי לא הבין את ההסבר, כל שכן שאני לא הבנתי ממנו) משהו כמו שלפי הקבלה השורש הרוחני של העופות מקביל לשורש הרוחני של הדגים (שוב, כל ההסבר כאן הוא בערבון מוגבל מאוד, כי לא אני ולא המקור שלי למדנו קבלה). אח"כ הוא קישר איכשהו בין זה לבין ספירת היסוד והסביר שהמגיפה עצמה שתגיע (שככל הנראה עשויה להיות המגיפה הבאה, ראו בהמשך) תהיה קשורה לפגם הברית (למי שלא מכיר את הנושא, מדובר בשפיכת זרע לבטלה ומה שקשור בה), והיא תוכל לפגוע רק במי שהברית שלו פגום (הרב גם אמר שהפגיעה של הצונאמי ושל ההוריקן בניו אורלינס באה בשל פגם הברית).
הוא המשיך והסביר, שהוא לא יודע אם מדובר במגיפה הזאת, אבל אם זאת לא המגיפה הזאת, אז זו תהיה מגיפה נוספת שתבוא אחריה. המגיפה אמורה להיות אותה מגיפה שמוזכרת בסוף ספר זכריה, והסימן שזאת תהיה המגיפה המדוברת יהיה שהיא תפגע בעיניים ("וזאת תהיה המגיפה אשר יגוף ה' את כל העמים... ועיניו תימקנה בחוריהן"), ואז נדע האם מדובר באותה מגיפה או לא. הוא נשאל האם המגיפה תגיע לישראל, והוא ענה שבישראל המקובלים יודעים את שמות הקודש ואת הכוונות כדי ליצור הגנה מספקת מהמגיפה הזו, כך שבארץ ישראל לא אמורה להיות סכנה ממשית, אם בכלל (ומדבריו היה נראה שלא תהיה בארץ סכנה כלל).
במשך השיעור הוא דיבר על "בשורה" שיש לו לבשר לבאי בית הכנסת, ושאותה הוא משאיר לסוף השיעור. הסתבר בסופו של דבר שכולנו כבר שמענו את הבשורה הזו, אבל לפחות הוא מאשר אותה: הוא קיבל טלפון בשבוע שעבר מהישיבה של זקן המקובלים הרב כדורי שליט"א, וסיפרו לו פחות או יותר את מה שדיווחו לגבי מה שהיה עם הרב כדורי בבית כנסת ביום הכיפורים. שהרב כדורי נכנס לתוך מחשבה עמוקה לפרק זמן ארוך, ואחרי זה הוא חייך חיוך רחב ואמר שנשמת המשיח התעברה ביום הכיפורים באחד מבני ישראל. הרב הופתע לראות שחלק מבאי בית הכנסת כבר קראו על זה באינטרנט...
הרב המשיך והסביר את הדברים שאמר הרב כדורי. הוא הסביר שנשמת המשיח שהתעברה היא כרגע תינוק. שאלו אותו אם זה אומר שהמשיח עכשיו הוא תינוק, והוא הסביר שלא. המשיח יכול להיות, לפי דבריו, מגיל 12 עד גיל 80, אבל הנשמה שהתעברה היא תינוק (אני מקווה שאני מדייק), והוא עוד צריך לגדול לילד, לנער וכו'. אז שאלו אותו כמה זמן זה ייקח לו לגדול, כמו בן אדם רגיל? אז הוא ענה שהתהליך הזה יכול להיות מהיר מאוד.
הוא גם הסביר שאותו אדם שבו התעברה נשמת משיח - עדיין אינו יודע בכלל ואין לו מושג שהוא המשיח!
פתקא טבא לכולם!
English in brief:
*** Bird flu: this, or another disease to follow, will be the disease that prophet Zechariah talks about in the end of the book. The sign of the disease will be harmed eyes. This can hurt anyone with Pgam HaBrit, but in Israel the Mekubalim know the holy names to use in order to prevent the disease.
*** Rav Kaduri: the report about Rav Kaduri in Yom Kipur is authenticated, the Rav heard it by phone from Rav Kaduri's Yeshiva
*** Moshiach's Hit'abrut: Moshiach's soul is a baby. May grow very fast. The Moshiach himself may be between the age of 12 and 80. He still does not know that he is Moshiach.
R'Yaakov Nathan: I'm sorry for opening a new thread last time, if you can, please unite this thread with the previous thread with all the updates, I didn't realize the change then, sorry.
Shay: אשמח לענות על שאלות במסגרת הפורום, אבל אני לא מוסר פרטים נוספים על הרב כי כמו שאתה יודע, זאת מדינה קטנה
BK: I answered this question, I can't reveal his name because I'm afraid that if the name is revealed he will stop talking about these things. Israel is a small country, and usually Tzadikim talk on such matters only to a small crowd.
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| | BK | RE: Latest update from the RavPosted: 23/10/05 17:53 | |
| | quoting דניאל: | BK: I answered this question, I can't reveal his name because I'm afraid that if the name is revealed he will stop talking about these things. Israel is a small country, and usually Tzadikim talk on such matters only to a small crowd.
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Ah, I didn't know. Well, I hope these predictions are true. In fact, the mention of the "disease" in the Torah portion over Succot really struck me at the time and I mused to myself that it could very well be refering to this bird flu. But only time will tell I suppose!
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| | רפאל | A few questionsPosted: 23/10/05 22:34 | |
| Daniel,
I would greatly appreciate if you could have your contact ask the Rav the following questions:
1. Is he talking about Moshiach ben Yosef?
2. Is it correct that the ibur took place between end of Iyar and beginning of Tammuz 5765?
3. Can we now have unprecedented confidence when confronting Edom?
4. Will there be 17 years from the ibur until the revelation of Moshiach ben Yosef?
Thank you.
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| | Pizmon | RE: A few questionsPosted: 23/10/05 23:29 | |
| | quoting רפאל: | | 2. Is it correct that the ibur took place between end of Iyar and beginning of Tammuz 5765? |
Rav Kaduri Shlita spoke this on yom hakippurim, why do you ask if this already happened months ago?
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Update of October 23Posted: 24/10/05 3:54 | |
| Our friend Daniel writes:
The Rav mentioned several things in his last shiur.
In the beginning, they asked him about the bird flu. He answered that the bird flu is related to what it states in the gemara "[Moshiach] ben Dovid will not come until a fish will be sought for the sick and it won't be found" (Sanhedrin 98a). He explained (but my source didn't understand the explanation, all the more so for me) something like according to the kabbalah the spiritual source of birds is opposite to the spiritual source of fish (neither me nor my source studied kabbalah, so we aren't sure about this explanation). Afterwards, he somehow conneved this to the sefira of Yesod and explained that the disease itself will be connected with "p'gam habrit" (wasteful emission of seed, relations with gentile women, etc.), and it will only be able to affect those who are connected to "p'gam habrit". The Rav also said that the tsunami and the hurricane in New Orleans also came for this reason.
He continued and explained that he doesn't know if this particular disease (bird flu) is the disease in question; if not, there will be another disease coming after it. The disease is supposed to be the same plague that is mentioned at the end of the book of Zecharia, and the sign for this will be that the plague will affect the eyes ("And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the nations...his eyes will waste away in their sockets...", Zecharia 14:12). Then we will know if we are talking about this same disease of not. He was asked if the disease will arrive in Israel, and he answered that in Israel the kabbalists know the Holy Names and the Kavanos in order to generate protection from this plague, thus in Eretz Yisrael there shouldn't be a real danger, if any at all (and it seemed from his words that there won't be any danger at all).
In the course of the lecture he spoke about some news he has to report to those who came to shul, and he will leave it for the end of the lecture. In the end, it turned out that everyone had already heard the news, but at least he validated it: he received a phone call the previous week from the Yeshiva of the elder kabbalist, Rav Kaduri, shlita, and they told him more or less what was reported concerning what occurred with Rav Kaduri over Yom Kippur (see this thread). That Rav Kaduri entered into deep contemplation for a long period of time, and after this he smiled a broad smile and said that the soul of Moshiach had entered a Jew on Yom Kippur. The Rav was surprised to see that part of the audience in the shul had already seen it on the internet...
The Rav continued and explained what Rav Kaduri said. He explained that the soul of Moshiach that entered is at present a baby. They asked him if this meant that the Moshiach is now a baby, and he said no. The Moshiach could be, according to his words, between age 12 and 80, although the soul that entered is a baby (I [Daniel] hope that I am being exact), and he still needs to grow to a child, a young man, etc. Then they asked him how much time it will take the soul of Moshiach to grow up, like a regular person? He answered that this process can be very quick.
He also explained that this person who received the soul of Moshiach still doesn't know and doesn't have any idea that he is Moshiach!
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| | Elisheva | Baby Moshiach - or Baby SoulPosted: 24/10/05 11:42 | |
| Thought on the meaning of baby soul.
"He explained that the soul of Moshiach that entered is at present a baby. They asked him if his meant that the Moshiach is now a baby and he said no."
Try reading it this way:
"The soul of Moshiach is ... a baby."
What is a baby soul?
Is it a new soul?
A young soul?
The statement did not tell us about the body which received the soul of Moshiach.
It said, "The Moshiach could be... between 12 & 80."
- not a baby body.
Can be an adult body - could be 20, 30, 50, 60, etc.
What does Moshiach's soul need from us to grow strong and quickly??
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| | Daber | a better questionPosted: 24/10/05 13:12 | |
| How is this consistent with the words of our sages that Mashiach would get an ibbur of Moshe Rabbeinu's soul?
Also he is supposed to have a spark of Adam and one of David Hamelech. If anything, he should get an old soul.
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| | Me | It's a new soulPosted: 24/10/05 16:07 | |
| Moshiach's soul was, according to our Sages, created before the creation of the world. It never came down to this world in a body.
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| | BK | Posted: 24/10/05 17:52 | |
| These statements are so vague that one can understand anything from them.
And that is EXACTLY the point. We will not know what Mashiach will be like until he actually arrives! (and that is - Chazal teach us - part and parcel of the punishment of the Galut itself!)
What we do know is how we can get him to come, and that is by accepting the Yoke of Heaven and not waiting for miracles. We must join the fight for Mashiach, and the front line is in Eretz Yisrael!
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| | Also Jew | RE: Rav Pinto infoPosted: 27/10/05 20:59 | |
| | quoting shlomoeliyahu: | | But I want to ask a huge rav! I have ben azman now, does anyone know any Rav like Rav Pinto perhaps that can email me with how to get a meeting? Also my for my chavrusa as well!!! |
Rav Pinto's site is: http://www.pinto.org.il
Reception hours: http://www.pinto.org.il/Index.asp?CategoryID=107&ArticleID=56
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| | BK | Posted: 28/10/05 17:18 | |
| Please excuse my ignorance, but who is Rav Pinto?
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| | דניאל | Tishrey 26 updatePosted: 30/10/05 1:26 | |
| Shalom,
I'm posting again in Hebrew with a short translation in English (Thank you R'Yaakov Nathan for the last translation).
לפי המקור שלי, הרב הזכיר היום (כ"ו בתשרי) כמה דברים:
דבר ראשון נראה שהיום הוא הרבה יותר יודע על המשיח. הוא כבר אמר מזמן שכל מה שהרב כדורי אומר זה אמת, וגם העניין שהמשיח נמצא איתנו אמת. אבל היום הוא אמר את זה בכזה בטחון, והוא הוסיף שהוא מוכן להישבע (על העובדה שהמשיח האמיתי נמצא בינינו) עם ספר תורה מול ההיכל. ככל הנראה, לפי מה שנראה לי, הוא רוצה להוציא את הספקות מהספקנים שעוד נשארו.
אחרי זה הוא התייחס לגבי מי הוא המשיח. הוא נתן את התיאור הבא, והוא אמר שהוא מתבסס בזה על הרמח"ל, אז אי אפשר לדעת אם זה מידיעה אישית שלו (למרות, שכמו שאמרתי, לפי מה שאמרו לי הוא נראה הרבה יותר יודע השבוע). הוא אמר שהמשיח הוא מישהו שבעברו לא שמר תורה ומצוות, ולא זו בלבד אלא שהוא ירד בעוונותיו לשיא הטומאה בצורה בלתי רגילה, ולקליפות עצומות. אבל בשלב כלשהו בהמשך הדרך הוא התחיל לחזור בתשובה, והצליח לצאת מכל הקליפות והטומאה, והיום הוא כבר הגיע לדרגות נשגבות ביותר בקדושה.
בשלב אחר של השיעור הוא נתקל (כביכול במקרה) במאמר חז"ל על מרודך בלאדן בן בלאדן (לפי מה שהבנתי מהמקור שלי זה היה בקטע שכתוב בסנהדרין צ"ו). הוא אמר בפירוש שבין לאדן של היום הוא גילגולו של אותו בלאדן (אותו "כלב", בלשונו), והסביר לקהל שבין לאדן עכשיו נמצא במחבוא אבל הוא יתגלה בקרוב. הוא הסביר שיש לבין לאדן מוח שטני בצורה שאי אפשר אותה, עם תוכניות שטניות קשות ביותר. הוא אמר שבקרוב (המקור שלי התרשם שזה ממש בקרוב) הוא יתחיל בפעולות בעולם, שכמוהן לא נראו ושקשה להעלות אותן על הדעת. אימה גדולה ואדירה תיפול על כל העולם, כולל על ישראל, והפעולות השטניות תימשכנה. הפעולות הללו תהיינה כל כך שטניות, והאיום על ישראל יהיה כל כך קשה ומפחיד, עד שלפי מה שאומר הרב, כל ישראל ירימו את עיניהם לאביהם שבשמיים בעקבות הפעולות הללו, וזה יביא לתשובה מספקת שבעקבותיה יוכל להתגלות המשיח.
הוא ניסה להמשיך בנושא, ולהסביר היכן מקום המסתור שבו הוא מתחבא, אבל... הוא הופרע ע"י מישהו בקהל ששאל שאלה בנושא אחר לגמרי, ונושא זה נעזב. אבל נראה למקור שלי מתוך הדברים של הרב, שדיבר לפני הקטע עם בן לאדן על הקליפה הקשה של פרס, וניסה להתחיל לדבר על זה גם אח"כ, נראה לו שהוא מסתתר באירן. אם נוסיף לזה את ההתבטאויות האחרונות של טהרן ואת המדרש (כתוב בצבע כחול בתוך הקישור הזה) על המלחמה עם איראן, אז זה ממש מעניין.
שבוע טוב.
English in short:
* The Rav is very sure that Moshiach is now with us a Jew within us. He's sure enough to swear about it.
* Moshiach is a Ba'al Teshuva that sinned a lot but now is in great holiness.
* Soon we'll hear about Bin Laden when his diabolic plans will soon become reality. The world will be very afraid. Israel will fear too, and will do Teshuva because of this, enough to bring the Moshiach's revelation.
Shavu'a Tov.
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| | Moshe G | Thanks for the updatePosted: 30/10/05 2:32 | |
| As always, a full translation would be very welcome!
Moshe
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Translation of 26 Tishrei updatePosted: 30/10/05 3:12 | |
| Our friend Daniel reports the following:
According to my source, the Rav mentioned today (26 Tishrei) a few things:
The first: it thing seems that today he knows much more about Moshiach. He already said some time ago that everything Rav Kaduri said is true, including that the idea that Moshiach is to be found among us is true. But today he said this with a lot of confidence, and he added that he is ready to swear (on the fact that true Moshiach is found among us) on a sefer Torah in front of the aron kodesh. Apparently, according to how it seems to me, he wants to remove the doubts from the remaining skeptics.
After this he spoke about who is Moshiach. He said that he bases himself on the Ramchal, so it is impossible to know if this is from his own personal knowledge (despite what I said, that according to what I was told he appeared much more "knowing" this week). He said that the Moshiach is someone who in the past didn't keep Torah and Mitzvos; not only this, but he descended in his sins to be connected to tuma (impurity) in a way that is out of the ordinary, to deep klipos. But since then he began to do tshuva, and he succeeded to come out of all the klipos and tuma, and today he has arrived to an elevated level of kedusha.
At another point in the lecture, he "stumbled" into a saying of chazal about "Merodach Beladen ben Beladen" (according to what I understood from my source, this is related to Sanhedrin 96). He said explicitly that Bin Laden of today is a gilgul of the same Beladen (the same "dog", in his words). and he explained to the audience that Bin Laden today is hidden, but he will soon be revealed. He explained that Bin Laden has an incredibly demonic mind, with terribly demonic plans. He said that soon (my source felt that this means very soon) he will begin his activities in the world, such as have never been seen and it is hard to imagine them. A great and terrible fear will will fall on the whole world, including on Israel, and the demonic plans will continue [timshichna -- not sure how to translate]. These activities will be so demonic and the terror on Israel will be so hard and fearful that, according to the words of the Rav, all of Israel will lift their eyes to their father in heaven in the wake of these activities, and this will bring us to sufficient Tshuva that Moshiach will be able to be revealed.
He attempted to return to the subject, but a member of the audience asked a question on another subject and the discussion went off on a tangent. But according to my source, it seemed to him that he mentioned something with Bin Laden and the hard klipa of Paras (Persia/Iran), and he tried to start to talk about this afterwards, that it seems to him that Bin Laden is hiding in Iran. (See this link from the Hebrew LeDavid forum, in particular the following: "It will seem that the time has come for Moshiach, but he is still suffering, and there is only to wait until the Romans (the West) conquer the Persians (Iran).)
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| | :) | RE: Translation of 26 Tishrei updatePosted: 30/10/05 4:15 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | A great and terrible fear will will fall on the whole world, including on Israel, and the demonic plans will [timshichna -- not sure how to translate]. These activities will be so demonic and the terror on Israel will be so hard and fearful |
timshichna=continue IMHO.
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Bin LadenPosted: 30/10/05 6:06 | |
| | quoting : | | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | A great and terrible fear will will fall on the whole world, including on Israel, and the demonic plans will [timshichna -- not sure how to translate]. These activities will be so demonic and the terror on Israel will be so hard and fearful |
timshichna=continue IMHO. |
Thanks I wasn't sure why he didn't write "timshichu"
Also, links of interest:
http://magog.web-site.co.il/gog/e_laden.shtml
http://gog.web-site.co.il/gog/laden.shtml
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| | G | RE: Bin LadenPosted: 30/10/05 7:07 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting : | | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | A great and terrible fear will will fall on the whole world, including on Israel, and the demonic plans will [timshichna -- not sure how to translate]. These activities will be so demonic and the terror on Israel will be so hard and fearful |
timshichna=continue IMHO. |
Thanks I wasn't sure why he didn't write "timshichu"
Also, links of interest:
http://magog.web-site.co.il/gog/e_laden.shtml
http://gog.web-site.co.il/gog/laden.shtml |
It's pronounced Timashachnah. It is the biblical form of the future tense female plural You see this form occasionally in the Chumash. In modern hebrew it would be yimasheichu (יימשכו).
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| | JSB | Ramadan conclusion?Posted: 30/10/05 11:07 | |
| Few thoughts:
1. Worldnet daily says bin-laden wants to nuke during ramadan)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46235
2. Ramadan ends this Wedneday Nov 3 (Rosh Chodesh II / 1 Chesvan).
3. Their festival "Eil ul-fitr" which concludes Ramadan is Thursday the Nov 4th.
| quoting Yaakov Nathan: | Our friend Daniel reports the following:
He said that soon (my source felt that this means very soon) he will begin his activities in the world, such as have never been seen and it is hard to imagine them. A great and terrible fear will will fall on the whole world, including on Israel, and the demonic plans will continue [timshichna -- not sure how to translate]. |
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| | Dvir N. | Posted: 30/10/05 15:15 | |
| War with Iran, Sign of Redemption
http://www.yiddishkeit.org/Default_YK.asp?ItemCode=796
The Talmud, Yoma 10a, states:
Rabbi Yochanan said in the name of Rabbi Yehuda in the name of Rabbi Ilai: In the time to come, Rome will fall at the hands of Persia.
The Yalkut Shimoni (midrash, compiled circa 500 c.e.) states:
Rabbi Yitzchak said: The year that Melech HaMoshiach will be revealed, all the kings (leaders) of the nations will be struggling against each other. The leader of Persia (Iran) will contest with a western leader and the western leader will go to Edom (the Christian West) to get council from them.
The leader of Persia will respond and destroy the entire world. All the nations of the world will be trembling and shaking and falling on their faces. They will be seized by pains like labor pains.
The Jewish people will be trembling and quaking and saying: "Where can we go? Where can we go?" And [Moshiach] will say to them: my children, do not fear! Everything I did I did only for you! Why are you frightened? Don't be afraid--the days of your redemption have arrived!
Rabbi Yonasan Eibshetz, ztvk"l, (1690-1764) states in his sefer: Yaaros Dvash:
At certain moment the time will come when Moshiach should have already arrived but the redemption has not yet come. The Moshiach will ask how it could be that the time for redemption has arrived and he still undergoes sufferings? The response that he will receive is that he must wait for nine months. Why? In order to wait for the fall of Persia (Iran) at the hands of Edom (the Christian West), and then the final redemption will come.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | 5751Posted: 30/10/05 20:59 | |
| | quoting Dvir N.: | The Yalkut Shimoni (midrash, compiled circa 500 c.e.) states:
Rabbi Yitzchak said: The year that Melech HaMoshiach will be revealed, all the kings (leaders) of the nations will be struggling against each other. The leader of Persia (Iran) will contest with a western leader and the western leader will go to Edom (the Christian West) to get council from them.
The leader of Persia will respond and destroy the entire world. All the nations of the world will be trembling and shaking and falling on their faces. They will be seized by pains like labor pains.
The Jewish people will be trembling and quaking and saying: "Where can we go? Where can we go?" And [Moshiach] will say to them: my children, do not fear! Everything I did I did only for you! Why are you frightened? Don't be afraid--the days of your redemption have arrived!
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R'Dvir, thanks for the great quotations! For anyone who may not know, I would just like to add that in 5751 (1991) the Lubavitcher Rebbe quoted this midrash and said that "this is the year when the King Moshiach is being revealed... and the announcement of the Redemption is coming from the (geographical) Diaspora (770 Eastern Parkway)".
www.moshiach.ca www.chabad.info
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| | Daber | still in galutPosted: 30/10/05 23:02 | |
| But it didn't happen, else we wouldn't all still be in galut. You can't have it both ways.
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| | שוקי | Posted: 30/10/05 23:58 | |
| I wonder who'll it be: Iran getting trounced, or the west getting whipped.
| quoting Dvir N.: | War with Iran, Sign of Redemption
http://www.yiddishkeit.org/Default_YK.asp?ItemCode=796
The Talmud, Yoma 10a, states:
Rabbi Yochanan said in the name of Rabbi Yehuda in the name of Rabbi Ilai: In the time to come, Rome will fall at the hands of Persia.
Rabbi Yonasan Eibshetz, ztvk"l, (1690-1764) states in his sefer: Yaaros Dvash:
At certain moment the time will come when Moshiach should have already arrived but the redemption has not yet come. The Moshiach will ask how it could be that the time for redemption has arrived and he still undergoes sufferings? The response that he will receive is that he must wait for nine months. Why? In order to wait for the fall of Persia (Iran) at the hands of Edom (the Christian West), and then the final redemption will come. |
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: Now you see him, now you don't...Posted: 31/10/05 17:55 | |
| | quoting Daber: | | But it didn't happen, else we wouldn't all still be in galut. You can't have it both ways. |
Have you seen this:
| Quote: | From Arba Mei'os Shekel Kesef(page 6 ...written by Rabbi Chaim Vital, pupil of the Arizal....
"Just as we find that Moshe Rabbeinu [Moses] ascended to Heaven, body and soul, and remained there for 40 days...similary, Moshiach [King Messiah] will, through the help of the Almighty, merit to attain that lofty soul. He will then realize that he is in fact Moshiach [King Messiah] , although no one else wil be aware of this. This is the secret to which the Zohar alludes, 'Moshiach [King Messiah] will be revealed, yet no one will perceive him'.
"Shortly afterwards Moshiach [King Messiah] will be hidden away, body and soul, in that Divine pillar [the spiritual incubation of this sublime soul], as previously explained...
"Moshiach [King Messiah] will thereupon rise up to Heaven just as Moshe [Moses] ascended to the firmament, and will subsequently [return and] be revealed completely for all to see. The entire Jewish people will then perceive him and flock towards him."
[See also Sha'ar Hagilgulim chapter 13]
http://www.rabbiyess.com/Kaballa_on_resurrection.html
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www.moshiach.ca www.chabad.info
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| | G | RE: Now you see him, now you don't...Posted: 31/10/05 18:00 | |
| | quoting Aharon Benjamin: | | quoting Daber: | | But it didn't happen, else we wouldn't all still be in galut. You can't have it both ways. |
Have you seen this:
| Quote: | From Arba Mei'os Shekel Kesef(page 6 ...written by Rabbi Chaim Vital, pupil of the Arizal....
"Just as we find that Moshe Rabbeinu [Moses] ascended to Heaven, body and soul, and remained there for 40 days...similary, Moshiach [King Messiah] will, through the help of the Almighty, merit to attain that lofty soul. He will then realize that he is in fact Moshiach [King Messiah] , although no one else wil be aware of this. This is the secret to which the Zohar alludes, 'Moshiach [King Messiah] will be revealed, yet no one will perceive him'.
"Shortly afterwards Moshiach [King Messiah] will be hidden away, body and soul, in that Divine pillar [the spiritual incubation of this sublime soul], as previously explained...
"Moshiach [King Messiah] will thereupon rise up to Heaven just as Moshe [Moses] ascended to the firmament, and will subsequently [return and] be revealed completely for all to see. The entire Jewish people will then perceive him and flock towards him."
[See also Sha'ar Hagilgulim chapter 13]
http://www.rabbiyess.com/Kaballa_on_resurrection.html
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www.moshiach.ca www.chabad.info |
It says no one will recognize him. Does this not include Chabadniks?
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: Now you see him, now you don't...Posted: 31/10/05 18:08 | |
| | quoting G: |
It says no one will recognize him. Does this not include Chabadniks? |
A fair question. I'm not sure exactly what Rav Chaiim Vital's lashon is in the original sources. Perhaps someone with access can provide us with more precise information before I or we attempt to interpret the words.
www.moshiach.ca www.chabad.info
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| | דניאל | Latest from the Rav that foresaw the TsunamiPosted: 6/11/05 3:52 | |
| (English follows Hebrew)
שלום.
לפי מה ששמעתי מהמקור שלי, נראה לי שזה אולי יהיה העדכון האחרון כאן. זה מה שהיה פחות או יותר, אני מנסה לדייק ככל האפשר לפי מה שנאמר לי:
הרב היום ביקש מחילה מכל הבאים לשיעור בבית הכנסת. הוא אמר שהוא מצטער אבל יכול להיות שהדברים שהוא אמר בשם הרב כדורי לא נכונים. הוא אמר שיש מי שאומרים שהרב כדורי אמר את זה, ויש כאלה שאומרים שהוא לא אמר את זה. שאלו אותו אם זה בגלל מה שהיה באינטרנט. הוא ענה שהוא יודע מה שהיה באינטרנט, אבל זאת לא הסיבה. הוא הסביר שמה שהוא אמר קודם התבסס על הדברים שאמר הרב כדורי, כי הוא מקבל את כל הדברים שהרב כדורי אומר כאמת לאמיתה. אחרי זה הוא אמר שבמשך כל הדורות צדיקים טעו לגבי הזמן שבו יבוא המשיח, והוא אמר שמי שיבשר לנו על המשיח יהיה אליהו הנביא.
ההרגשה בבית הכנסת היתה שיותר לא נשמע ממנו על הגאולה.
בהזדמנות אחרת הוא אמר באמירה כללית, שיהיה לנו קשה לקבל את המשיח, כי לא נבין אותו ואת פעולותיו.
עוד שאריות משבוע שעבר שהוזכרו לי השבוע: הוא אמר בשבוע שעבר שאבני האלגביש שכתוב שיפלו על גוג ומגוג הם מטאורים.
זה היה העדכון השבועי. המקור שלי היה בטוח שהסיבה שהרב מדבר על טעויות עם המשיח ושאליהו הנביא יבשר זה בגלל שמשמיים אמרו לו להפסיק לדבר על זה. אני לעומת זאת חושב שבגלל שהרב בעצמו אומר שהוא יודע מה שהיה באינטרנט, אז הוא גם יודע שהתפרסמו הדברים בשמו. אני חושב שהוא הבין שמעבירים את הנבואות שלו לאינטרנט, אז הוא החליט להפסיק אותם לגמרי, וזה היה התירוץ. רב מקובל ברמה של הרב הזה לא יגיד לכל הקהל של בית הכנסת שהוא מוכן להישבע עם ספר תורה מול ההיכל על זה שהמשיח כבר בינינו, בלי שיהיה לו מידע אמין משלו, שהוא יודע אישית (חוץ מזה הוא גם תיאר אז את המשיח כאילו הוא יודע מי זה). הוא בעצמו כבר סיפר פעם שדיברו איתו מהשמיים על אחדות. אני חושב שהוא פשוט החליט שזהו זה עם הנבואות האלה כי זה לא נשאר בציבור הקטן, בדיוק כמו שחששתי בהתחלה.
אם מה שאני חושב יהיה נכון והוא לא יביא נבואות חדשות בשבועות הקרובים אז אני מתכוון בלי נדר להביא כאן את הפרטים של שמו ושם בית הכנסת, כדי שכולם יוכלו ללמוד מתורתו. הוא התבטא כמה פעמים באופן שהיה אפשר להבין שעל כל מי שנמצא בשיעור שלו בבית הכנסת הוא מנסה לשמור בצורה מיוחדת.
אני מקוה שאני טועה לגבי הרב, ושבשבוע הבא אני אעדכן שוב.
שבוע טוב.
Hello.
According to what I've heard from my source this might be the last update.
The Rav asked today forgiveness from all the people in the synagogue. He said that he is sorry, but it might turn that the things that he said in the name of Rav Kaduri are not correct. He said that there are some who say that Rav Kaduri said it, and some who say that he didn't. He was asked whether this is because what was in the internet, and he answered that he knows what happened in the internet, but this was not the reason. He explained that the things that he said before were based on things that Rav Kaduri said, because he accepts all the thing that Rav Kaduri says as true. Then he said that throughout the generations there were Tzadikim that were wrong about the time when Moshiach comes. He said that the one that will tell us about Moshiach will be Eliyahu Hanavi.
The feeling in the syangogue was that we won't hear from him more about the Geulah.
In another opportunity he said something general, that it will be hard for us to accept Moshiach because we won't understand him or his actions.
Some leftovers I forgot from last week: He said last week that the Algavish stones that are to fall on Gog and Magog are meteors.
This was the update. My source was sure that the reason that the Rav talks about mistakes with Moshiach, and that Eliyahu Hanavi will tell us, is because he was ordered to stop talking about it from Shamayim. On the other hand, I think that because the Rav said himself that he knows what was in the internet, then he knows also the things that were published in his name. I think that he understood that these prophecies of his are taken to the internet, so he decided to stop them completely, and that was the excuse. A Kabbalistic Rav in the level of this Rav won't say to the whole public in the syangogue that he is ready to swear with Sefer Torah in front of the Heichal that the Moshiach is among us already, if he does not have his own information (besides he gave then a description of who will be Moshiach as if he knows who he is). He himself said once that they talked with him from Shamayim about unity. I think he just decided to finish these prophecies because it's not staying within a small crowd anymore, exactly as I was afraid in the begining.
If what I think is true, and he won't bring any new prophecies in the next few weeks, then I intend, without Neder, to bring here his details so that everyone will be able to learn from his Torah. He said a few times things that can be interpreted that he tries to especially to protect anyone that's present in his lesson in the synagogue.
I hope that I'm wrong, and that in next week I'll bring a new update.
Shavua Tov
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| | devorah | meteorsPosted: 6/11/05 4:36 | |
| | Quote: | Some leftovers I forgot from last week: He said last week that the Algavish stones that are to fall on Gog and Magog are meteors.
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UNUSUAL NUMBER OF NIGHTTIME FIREBALLS -
Before Halloween night was over, reports of meteors "brighter than a full moon" were streaming in from coast to coast. Astronomers have taken to calling these the "Halloween fireballs." But there's more to it than Halloween. The display has been going on for days. Every year in late October and early November Earth passes through a river of space dust associated with Comet Encke. Most years the shower is weak, producing no more than five rather dim meteors every hour. But occasionally, the Taurids put on quite a show. 2005 could be such a year. The Taurid shower peaks between Nov. 5th and Nov. 12th.
http://home.att.net/~thehessians/disasterwatch.html
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| | Talsin | Partly concealed lightPosted: 6/11/05 5:08 | |
| It would make sense that there are those in the world who are able to recognise the moshiach for who it is, whilst the rest of us must wait for the revelation of the masses before we can know that the moshiach is truly here.
There must be those who aid the mosiach before the revelation surely ?
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| | Daber | prophetic insightPosted: 6/11/05 9:22 | |
| Shmuel knew that Shaul was to be king and Shaul didn't have a clue.
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| | שוקי | PropheciesPosted: 6/11/05 14:36 | |
| Daniel,
termilogy is very important.
Has this rabbi/mekubal been revealing prophecies, or 'merely' know that a certain chain of events is happening, or about to happen. I think 'prophecy' might be only correctly used as hearing from hashem and proclaiming in hashem's name. Otherwise, it is not prophecy, or am I wrong and confused?
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| | Daber | check this out!Posted: 6/11/05 20:30 | |
| Mekubal who Predicted Tsunami (Complete)
OCTOBER 15: "...when I talked to my source about the things that Rav Batzri said on Rosh HaShana, he remembered that the Rav said in another lesson (even before) that 5766 will be a good year to Israel economically speaking, and a new economical source will open for Israel, and the source won't be from the US."
Maybe this is it...
http://www.israelnn.com/metafiles/asx/show...kend-2.asx
(Go to the 30 minute mark into the program.)
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| | GershEULA | RE: check this out!Posted: 6/11/05 22:56 | |
| | quoting Daber: | Mekubal who Predicted Tsunami (Complete)
OCTOBER 15: "...when I talked to my source about the things that Rav Batzri said on Rosh HaShana, he remembered that the Rav said in another lesson (even before) that 5766 will be a good year to Israel economically speaking, and a new economical source will open for Israel, and the source won't be from the US."
Maybe this is it...
http://www.israelnn.com/metafiles/asx/show...kend-2.asx
(Go to the 30 minute mark into the program.) |
I'm not able to play it on my computer for some reason, can you briefly transcribe it?
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| | דניאל | Latest from the Rav that foresaw the TsunamiPosted: 13/11/05 2:04 | |
| (English follows Hebrew)
שלום,
הרב היום לא דיבר כמעט בנושא. הוא רק אמר מתישהו משהו לא ברור כל כך, שהיה בערך כזה (ציטוט של בערך מה שנמסר לי מהמקור שלי): "לגבי השמועה האחרונה שיצאה לגבי הרב כדורי בשבוע החולף, ושהכחישו אותה מהלשכה של כדורי, אני אומר לכם שלמרות ההכחשה בכל זאת כדאי מאוד להתחזק השבוע בתפילה ובתהלים". המקור שלי לא ידע על מה מדובר (לא נראה שגם אחרים ידעו, אבל בכל זאת אף אחד לא שאל את הרב) אבל ההרגשה שהוא קיבל היתה לגבי משהו שהולך לקרות השבוע (זה רק ההרגשה שלו, לפי מה שהבין מהמילים שהרב אמר). מצטער על העירפול, אבל אני רק מעביר לכם מה ששמעתי.
אני לא מכיר שום שמועה מהשבוע, אבל אם אתם יודעים, תעדכנו אותי.
אמירה נוספת היום: כל ה"סטן"ים (פקי-סטן ודומיה) מקבלים הרבה מכות וזה עכשיו תקופה של בירור גדול באיזור ההוא.
שבוע טוב.
Shalom,
The Rav today almost didn't speak on the subject. He just said something not so clear, that was something like that: "About the last rumor about Rav Kaduri's words this passing week, that was denied from Kaduri's office, I'm telling you that even though it was denied, you should really stregthen this week in prayer and in Tehilim". My source didn't know what was he talking about (it seems others didn't know also, but no one asked the Rav), but the feeling that he got was that something was about to happen this week (it's only his feeling, according to his understanding of the Rav's words).
I'm not familar with any rumor from the passing week, but if you do know, please update me.
Something else he said: All the "stan"s (Paki-stan and the others) are getting many Makot (strikes?) and now is a period of great Berur (filtration?) in that area.
Shavua Tov.
PS: Shuki - the Rav never used the term "prophecies" (it was my mistake last week). Actually he said once that we are in a time where there is no Navi Emes, so no one can tell in full confidence what is going to happen.
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| | GershEULA | RE: Latest from the Rav that foresaw the TsunamiPosted: 13/11/05 3:09 | |
| | Quote: | | The Rav today almost didn't speak on the subject. He just said something not so clear, that was something like that: "About the last rumor about Rav Kaduri's words this passing week, that was denied from Kaduri's office, I'm telling you that even though it was denied, you should really stregthen this week in prayer and in Tehilim". |
Can anyone remind me what this 'subject' and 'rumor' was?
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| | דניאל | Cheshvan 17: Interesting Update from the RavPosted: 20/11/05 3:42 | |
| (English summary follows Hebrew)
שבוע טוב.
ברוך השם, נראה שהרב ממשיך לדבר על הנושא, ואלה הדברים שנאמרו בשבת הזו לפי מה שנמסר לי מהמקור שלי:
אני מתחיל בהסבר לגבי העדכון המעורפל של שבוע שעבר. תיארתי לעצמי שיצטרך לבוא השבוע הסבר כלשהו לגבי הדברים. אז הרב הסביר את זה בצורה כזו בערך: הוא אמר ש"ידוע" שאם שרון לא יעלה לשלטון מחדש אז יבוא המשיח, והוא אמר שהשבוע האחרון היה עת רצון לקבל איזה משהו טוב מהשמיים שהיה גורם לכך ששרון היה מסולק מהמפה הפוליטית (הוא לא פירט באיזו דרך בדיוק), ועל זה היה צריך להתפלל ולקרוא תהילים כדי שזה יקרה, כי זה היה דבר טוב מאוד אם זה היה קורה, אבל בגלל שבסוף הסתבר ששרון נשאר וממשיך להתמודד פוליטית, זה מראה שמשמיים דחו את הדבר.
שאלו את הרב האם אכן תתקיימנה הבחירות, והוא אמר שזה עדיין יכול להשתנות, והוא אינו יכול לומר לגבי זה שום דבר בוודאות.
האמירה שתפסה הכי קשה את המקור שלי, וככל הנראה את כל הקהל כולו, היתה לגבי ירושלים. למרות שלפי מה שנראה לי הדברים פחות או יותר היו ידועים, לפי המקור שלי הדרך שבה הדברים נאמרו היתה קשה ביותר. הוא אמר שבשלב כלשהו בגלל שהפלסטינים יגידו שהם כבר לא יכולים להסתדר עם הישראלים (כנראה הכוונה במו"מ או משהו כזה), אז יבוא "הדוד סם", שהרב אמר שזה הס"מ, ויצהיר שהוא מוכן לשלוט על ירושלים בשביל הפלסטינים, והאמריקאים עם האו"ם ישלטו על ירושלים! את הדברים האלה הוא אומר חד משמעית בצורה ברורה וחדה: אנחנו נאבד את השליטה על ירושלים, והשליטה עליה תהפוך להיות שליטה בינלאומית! הוא אמר שאם זה לא יקרה, אז השם שלו זה לא השם שלו, מה שאומר שהוא יודע מה הוא אומר. הוא אמר שהם רוצים/ירצו להפוך את כל ארץ ישראל לשטח בינלאומי, אבל לגבי זה הוא לא אמר שזה יקרה, רק שהם רוצים שכך יהיה.
הוא אמר לגבי בוש, שהאמונה שלו היא נוצרית חזקה, ובוש משוכנע שאנחנו, עם ישראל, רצחנו את האלוהים שלו, וזאת אחת הסיבות שהוא מאוד ירצה לבוא דווקא נגד ישראל.
הוא דיבר לגבי המלחמה במזרח התיכון, ואמר שאירן וסוריה נמצאות עכשיו על הכוונת של אמריקה, וארה"ב מתכוונת לתקוף אותם בהמשך. הוא אמר שבקרוב מאוד אירן תוכיח לארה"ב, שהיא בכלל לא חוששת ממנה לחלוטין. הוא הזכיר משהו שלא כ"כ הובן ע"י המקור שלי לגבי הכור הגרעיני, ההפעלה שלו והרוסים, והוא אמר שאירן שילמה לרוסיה כמה מיליארדים כדי שרוסיה תעשה להם את העבודה, וכשזה ייגמר אז ההתגרות של אירן בארה"ב תתחיל בצורה ברורה (מה שכנראה יתחיל את המלחמה שם). הוא אמר שזה בינתיים לוקח זמן, והוא חושב שזה יקרה תוך כמה חודשים, או לכל היותר עד סוף השנה.
הרב הזכיר גם במשך השיעור דברים שהרב נחמני זצוק"ל דיבר בעבר על סיאול (בירת קוריאה, אמנם קוריאה הדרומית), והוא דיבר על קוריאה (כנראה דיבר על הצפונית) ואמר ש"משם תיפתח הרעה". הוא אמר שבקוריאה הם כמו נאצים שונאים את האמריקאים, והוא אמר שהרב נחמני אמר שתהיה שם מלחמה חזקה, והזכיר את הכור הגרעיני שיש שם. הוא אמר שזאת תהיה המלחמה האחרונה (נכון, לא מובן, "תיפתח" הרעה לעומת המלחמה "האחרונה", אבל אני רק מעביר מה שקיבלתי, אולי הכוונה של "תיפתח הרעה" זה שהשימוש בנשק הגרעיני יתחיל משם).
הוא אמר שהעולם שרוי כרגע במצב של דינים קשים מאוד, כ"כ קשים עד שאי אפשר לקלוט בשכל אנושי מה עומד לקרות בהמשך.
אח"כ הוא דיבר על העניין של חזרה בתשובה בהקשר לגאולה. הוא אמר שכל עם ישראל כולו יחזור בתשובה עוד לפני שיבוא המשיח. הוא ניסה להסביר איך זה יקרה, והוא אמר שכשעם ישראל מרימים את עיניהם לאביהם שבשמיים, אז ממש תוך רגע אחד רשע יכול להפוך לצדיק, אפילו רק בהרהור ובפנייה אל הקב"ה. והוא נתן איזה דוגמא, למשל אם אדם נמצא בטיסה במטוס, ובמטוס פורצת שריפה גדולה, ואין שום מצנח במטוס, אז לבן אדם הזה לא נשאר מה לעשות, רק להרים את הראש לשמיים ולזעוק לבורא עולם.
הוא אומר שזה בערך מה שיהיה, ושכל עם ישראל יזעקו לבורא עולם. הוא הזכיר את העניין שהיה עם משה רבינו ונחש הנחושת, שמטרתו היתה שכולם ירימו את עיניהם לשמיים. הוא אמר שיהיה משהו שיגרום לכולם באמת להרים את עיניהם לשמיים, הוא אמר שכולם יראו משהו מעופף (ובגלל זה יסתכלו לכיוון השמיים), ואז כולם יבקשו מבורא עולם. הוא כנראה עמד לפרט, אבל שאלו אותו האם הוא מתכוון לשפעת העופות (איך הגיעו לזה, אין לי מושג), ואז הוא עבר נושא:
הוא אמר לגבי שפעת העופות, ואמר שהעניין הזה הוא בכלל לא פשוט, וזה עומד להיות דבר קשה ביותר, אבל הוא לא הרחיב יותר מדי, אלא שהפעם הוא אמר שזה יכול להגיע גם לישראל (מה שאותי אישית לא מדאיג, כי הוא הרי אמר לפני כמה שבועות שגם אם זה יגיע לישראל אז המקובלים יודעים לבצע את ההגנה המתאימה לישראל בפני זה, אז אולי הוא התכוון הפעם שזה יגיע לעופות בישראל, או אולי לגויים, ולא שמעתי שהוא חזר בו מהאמירה הזאת).
בעניין אחר הוא התבטא בנושא של נשמת המשיח המתעברת. הוא אמר שהנשמה של המשיח קיימת כבר ממש המון זמן, לעומת הגוף של המשיח שהוא יחסית חדש, וכמו שאמר בעבר, הנשמה נכנסה במצב של תינוק, והיא הולכת וגדלה. הוא חזר על כך שהמשיח עדיין לא יודע שהוא המשיח, אבל הפעם הוא הסביר מתי הוא יידע שהוא המשיח. הוא אמר שבשלב מסויים של גדילת הנשמה, הקב"ה יתגלה אליו בעצמו ויודיע לו את הדברים, והוא אמר שזה יהיה כנראה די דומה לדרך שבה הקב"ה התגלה למשה רבינו עליו השלום.
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זה היה העדכון. עכשיו אני רוצה להגיד כמה מילים ממה שדיברתי עם המקור שלי לגבי מה שהרב אומר, ומה שנראה לי מכל זה. זה רק מה שאני חושב, אבל בגלל שהיום הרב אמר כמה דברים שאולי מצביעים על סדר הדברים, ואמר בעבר כמה דברים שקשה לי לראות מתקיימים, אז נראה לי שמה שאני חושב יכול להיות נכון. בגלל שהוא אמר שהמלחמה עם אירן זה יקח כמה חודשים או עד סוף השנה (בטח הוא מתכוון לתשס"ו ולא ל-2005), ובגלל שהוא אמר שאולי הבחירות לא יתקיימו (ואני מבין מזה שאולי הם לא יספיקו לקיים אותם) אז אני חושב שמה שיקרה זה שקודם יבוא המשיח ואח"כ יהיה כל הדברים האלה של המלחמות המטורפות של גוג שחושב שהוא אלוה וכו', ואז זה מתאים למלחמה דתית שתהיה אז. אז אולי הדברים האלה יפחידו את העולם אבל לנו יהיה המשיח. אני לא יודע אם זה רק מחשבה שלי, או יותר נכון תקווה ותפילה אבל מה שלא מסתדר עם זה, זה מתי יקרה הפיכת ירושלים לבינלאומית. ולגבי הדבר שיעוף בשמיים, זה הזכיר לי קצת את מה שהילד אלי אמר כאן.
שבוע טוב ונהדר לכולם!
This time it was a long update (Baruch HaShem that the Rav continues to talk about this stuff), so I won't translate all of it, only summarize it:
- about last week's update with "something to happen this week", it was related to a time of will in Shamayim (עת רצון) for Sharon to vanish from the political map in some sort, which would've been a good thing because Moshiach would come earlier. It's been delayed from Shamayim.
- Elections won't necessarily take place.
- Jerusalem will be Chas VeShalom internationalized by America and the UN.
- Bush is convinced that the people of Israel are guilty for murdering his god and want to revenge against Israel.
- Iran will prove to the US that she's not afraid from them, it has something to do with the Russians. This will take place anywhere from few months to the end of the year.
- Korea was mentioned. They hate the US like Nazis. They have a reactor. The evil will start from there. It's the last war (I couldn't understand how "last" war from one side - and the evil will "start" on the other side. Maybe he means the nukes as the evil)
- World is under great Dinim
- All of Israel will make Teshuva before Moshiach comes. There will be something (unclear here) flying and it will be like Nachash HaNechoshet of Moses (reminded me of this from Eli)
- Bird flu will be very hard. It may arrive to Israel (but he didn't say that it will affect Jews in Israel, so I believe that his earlier words that Israel will be immuned by Kabbalistic Rabbis still stands).
- Moshiach doesn't know he's Moshiach yet. When Moshiach's soul will grow enough, HaShem will be revealed to him and tell him, in a similar manner to what happened with Moshe Rabenu.
Shavua Tov!
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Translation of November 20 updatePosted: 20/11/05 6:01 | |
| translation from the Hebrew
NOVEMBER 20
I begin with an explanation about last week's update (which referred to something Rav Kaduri might have said). The Rav explained it something like this: he said that it was "known" that if Sharon will not be re-elected then Moshiach will come. He said that last week was a moment of opportunity to receive something good from shomayim that would bring about Ariel Sharon's disappearance from the political map (he didn't give specific details), and we should daven and read tehillim for it to happen because this would be a very good thing. But because in the end it turned out that Sharon remained and continued to be involved in the elections, this indicates that from Shomayim they postponed this thing.
The Rav was asked if the elections will take place, and he said that this could still change, and he can't say anything certain about it.
The statement that struck my "source" the hardest, and apparently the entire audience as well, was regarding Yerushalayim. Even though it seems to me that the things are more or less known, according to my source the way things were said was [that they will be] very hard. He said something about the Palestinians complaining that that can no longer deal with the Israelis (implying the UN needs to get involved, perhaps), and then Uncle Sam will come, which the Rav said means the samech-mem (Sa"M--the side of evil in kabbalistic terminology) who will declare that he is ready to take control of Yerushalayim for the Palestinians, and the Americans together with the UN will control Yerushalayim! These things were said in a clear way so that it should not be misunderstood: we will lose control of Yerushalayim, and control over the city will become international! He said that if this doesn't happen, then his name is not his name, meaning that he knows what he is talking about. He said that they want/will want to transform all of Eretz Yisrael to an international territory, but he didn't say that this would happen, only that they want it to happen.
He said about George W. Bush that he has a very strong Xtian faith, and that Bush is convinced we, the Jewish people, murdered his god, and this is one of the reasons that he wants so much to come against Israel.
He spoke about the war in the Middle East, and he said that Iran and Syria are the targets of America, and that the USA intends to overpower them. He said that very soon Iran will prove to the USA that America does not worry it at all. He mentioned something that wasn't completely understood by my source, relating to the nuclear reactor beginning to run and the Russians, and he said that Iran paid Russia several billion in order that Russia should do the work for them. When this is completed, Iran will begin to rise against America in a clear way (apparently this is what will begin the war there). He said that this will take some time, and he thinks that this will happen in a matter of months, certainly by the end of the year.
The Rav mentioned during the shiur things that were said by Rav Nachmani, ztzvk"l in the past about Seoul (capital of South Korea), and he said about Korea (referring, apparently to the North) "from there will come the evil" [see Yermiyahu 1:14: mitsafon tipatach hara'ah al kol-yoshvey ha'arets; "Evil will come from the north upon all the inhabitants of the land"]. He said that in Korea they are like Nazis who hate the Americans, and he said that Rav Nachmani stated that there will be a great war there, and he mentioned the nuclear reactor that is there. He said that this will be the last war (didn't understand the distinction between "evil will come" and "the last war", but this is what I was told).
He said that the world is immersed now in a state of very hard judgements, so hard that it is imposible to grasp intellectually what stands to happen next.
Afterwards, he spoke about tshuva and its relation to the geulah. He said that the entire Jewish people (kol am Yisrael kulo) will do tshuva before Moshiach comes. He tried to explain how this will happen, and he said that when Yisrael lift their eyes to their father in heaven, then truly in a single moment a wicked person can turn into a tzaddik, even only a thought and a "turning" towards Hakadosh Baruch Hu. He gave as an example a man on a plane, and a big fire breaks out on the plane and there aren't any parachutes on the plane, this man has nothing left to do but lift his head to heaven and cry out to the Creator of the world.
He said that this is more or less what will be, and the entire Jewish people will cry out to the Creator of the world. He mentioned the incident with Moshe Rabbeinu and the copper snake [see Parshas Chukas], the purpose of which was that everyone should lift their eyes to heaven. He said that there will be something that will bring everyone to truly lift their eyes to heaven, and he said that everyone will see something flying (and because of this they will look towards the heavens), and then everyone will call to the Creator of the World. Apparently, he intended to give details, but someone asked if this was referring to the Bird Flu, and he changed subjects. [Daniel said it reminded him of this post from Eli about flying objects in the sky]
He said about the Bird Flu that this is not such a simple thing, and it stands to be something very difficult, but he didn't go into it very much, except that this time he said that this could come to Israel (although several weeks ago he said that it would come to Israel but that the mekubalim know how to protect against it, so perhaps he means that it will affect birds in Israel, or perhaps goyim, but I didn't hear that he retracted his earlier statements).
He also mentioned the matter of the soul of Moshiach which was mitaberes ("implanted" or "born"). He said that the nehsoma of Moshiach has been in existance now for quite some time compared to the body of the Moshiach which is relatively new. As he said in the past, the neshoma entered in the state of a baby, and it will grow. He repeated that the Moshiach still doesn't know that he's Moshiach but this time he explained when he will know that he is Moshiach. He said that at a certain phase in the growth of the neshoma, haKadosh Baruch Hu will reveal Himself to him and inform him of these things, and he said that this will be similar to the way that haKadosh Baruch Hu revealed Himself to Moshe Rabbeinu.
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| | shlomoeliyahu | holy molyPosted: 20/11/05 10:50 | |
| well if any of this stuff happens it must happen within the next year, so we will see for ourselves!!! Most of it sounds reasonable..
However I have 1 big problem. No one really knows who this rabbi is. I read this and I say, how do I know some active poster doesn't just type it up himself and is eventually going to publish a study that Jews believe anything they see?
I need to verify all this for myself, but I think its possible, and therefore I'm left with a problem, how to accept this information...
How do you guys do it?
Kol tuv!
***ALSO*** whats up with my avatar? It doesn't work! does it have to be .gif ??? cause this one is .jpg ...
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| | Daber | I wonderPosted: 20/11/05 15:10 | |
| | Quote: | | last week was a moment of opportunity to receive something good from shomayim that would bring about Ariel Sharon's disappearance from the political map (he didn't give specific details), and we should daven and read tehillim for it to happen because this would be a very good thing. |
I wonder if this could have anything to do with his starting a new party with Shimon Peres. There was some talk about it and then assurances were given that this was not his plan at all and now it is back in the news again, a headline at JPost as a matter of fact. If he breaks away from Likud, no way can he get re-elected.
I hope this is good news. Too bad we can't ask the Rav directly if this is what he was referring to.
| Quote: | JPost exclusive: Livni drafting MKs for Sharon party
In a sign that Sharon's departure from the Likud is imminent, Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, acting on Sharon's behalf, summoned Likud MKs Sunday afternoon to meet with her to discuss the formation of a new Sharon party. |
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...2FShowFull
| Quote: | | But the gamble would be among the biggest of a military and political career of high-stakes risk taking. Polls show Sharon would be uncertain of winning elections, now expected in February or March, with a new party. Whether or not Sharon returned to power, he could reshape the Jewish state’s political landscape. |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10126068/
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| | dror | to shlomoeliyahoPosted: 20/11/05 19:54 | |
| The rav was veryfied by the gogumagog forum.
you can see for your self.
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| | Daber | Dror, bevakashaPosted: 20/11/05 20:17 | |
| Could you please give us the link? I don't have it bookmarked.
Todah!
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| | J | RE: Rav verificationPosted: 20/11/05 20:27 | |
| Daniel's Rav was verified in Gog1 recently, and I think within Rabbi Brody's words to Rabbi BT, he referred to his words as the Talmid of Rav Nachmani, which is also cosidered a verification.
| Quote: | | Lazer: Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu Shlit'a has said repeatedly that there won't be a disengagement. On the other hand, one of Rabbi Levi Nachmani's (of blessed memory, a pious and scholarly Kabbalist from Ramot, Jerusalem who passed away several years ago) leading pupils has said that there will be a disengagement in Gaza, and that the real fight will be for Jerusalem. |
(a few weeks before this interview the Hebrew ledavid forum published the Daniel's Rav's words about the disengagement happening, and the fight for Jerusalem, and Daniel said the Rav was a pupil of Rav Nachmani)
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| | GershEULA | Iran and Russian Nuclear ReactorPosted: 21/11/05 6:18 | |
| | Quote: | | He spoke about the war in the Middle East, and he said that Iran and Syria are the targets of America, and that the USA intends to overpower them. He said that very soon Iran will prove to the USA that America does not worry it at all. He mentioned something that wasn't completely understood by my source, relating to the nuclear reactor beginning to run and the Russians, and he said that Iran paid Russia several billion in order that Russia should do the work for them. When this is completed, Iran will begin to rise against America in a clear way (apparently this is what will begin the war there). He said that this will take some time, and he thinks that this will happen in a matter of months, certainly by the end of the year. |
Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant. February 27, 2005.
| Quote: | | Iran claims that its nuclear power is for peaceful purposes and that it will help free up oil and gas resources for export, thus generating additional hard-currency revenues.... |
| Quote: | | The United States has argued that Iran has sufficient oil and gas reserves for power generation, and that nuclear reactors are expensive, unnecessary, and could be used for military purposes. |
| Quote: | | The agency's head, Alexander Rumyantsev, and Gholamreza Aqazadeh, the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, met in Moscow on September 12, 2005 to discuss the construction of the first power unit at the Bushehr NPP and confirmed they planned to commission the plant by the end of 2006, the spokesman said. Russian experts are currently on the final stages of the construction of the first power unit with capacity of about 1,000 Megawatt. |
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| | yitchok duvid | RE: Rav verificationPosted: 21/11/05 7:44 | |
| | quoting J: | Daniel's Rav was verified in Gog1 recently, and I think within Rabbi Brody's words to Rabbi BT, he referred to his words as the Talmid of Rav Nachmani, which is also cosidered a verification.
| Quote: | | Lazer: Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu Shlit'a has said repeatedly that there won't be a disengagement. On the other hand, one of Rabbi Levi Nachmani's (of blessed memory, a pious and scholarly Kabbalist from Ramot, Jerusalem who passed away several years ago) leading pupils has said that there will be a disengagement in Gaza, and that the real fight will be for Jerusalem. |
(a few weeks before this interview the Hebrew ledavid forum published the Daniel's Rav's words about the disengagement happening, and the fight for Jerusalem, and Daniel said the Rav was a pupil of Rav Nachmani) |
where is the proof that he said their will be a tusnami  verified on gog umog website means nothing. sorry but their has to be more proof.
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| | Elisheva | Good News is - Bushehr has 3X been earthquakedPosted: 21/11/05 9:08 | |
| Anyone know about the name - Bushehr and Pres. Bush?
What is an "ehr"? Bush-ehr?
Personally, my take is that this whole geographic area is so fragile, that if it does not earthquake itself into the sea, I would be surprised. And if we are smart, we can just nudge it a little bit.
| Quote: | | Bushehr itself has thrice been destroyed by earthquake in recent times (1877, [34 years] 1911 [51 years] and 1962). |
Seems that Germans and Russians "helped" them build the plant. And they are so sure it is safe, JUST AS LONG AS NO EARTHQUAKE BIGGER THAN 7.2!!
| Quote: | | The Germans who designed the Bushehr plant and the Russians who are building it assure everyone that it could withstand tremors of up to 7.2 on the Richter scale. That is almost one degree higher than the tremor that destroyed Bam. Also, the available historical data show that the region has not known tremors of more than 7 on the Richter scale. |
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M 6.6, 5.5, Darab and Bushehr, Iran Nov. 1990 and Dec. 1990. USGS Earthquake List for 1990. RECONNAISSANCE ACTIVITIES. EERI Reports. EERI Newsletter for Darab and Bushehr, Iran Earthquakes ... www.eeri.org/lfe/iran_bushehr.html
Really good article about the plant, quakes and Iran:
IRAN'S POLITICAL QUAKE - Amir Taheri - Benador Associates Bushehr itself has thrice been destroyed by earthquake in recent times (1877 ... The Bushehr plant may have made some sinister sense under Iran's program to ... www.benadorassociates.com/article/871
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| | J | N.Korea hatred for the USPosted: 22/11/05 7:18 | |
| | Quote: | | - Korea was mentioned. They hate the US like Nazis. |
This Hebrew news items says that N.Korea's official news agency compared today G.W.Bush to Hitler.
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| | GershEULA | RE: N.Korea hatred for the USPosted: 22/11/05 7:27 | |
| | quoting J: | | Quote: | | - Korea was mentioned. They hate the US like Nazis. |
This Hebrew news items says that N.Korea's official news agency compared today G.W.Bush to Hitler. |
Yaakov Nathan's translation was:
| Quote: | | He said that in Korea they are like Nazis who hate the Americans. |
The previous, more outlined translation from דניאל was:
| Quote: | | They hate the US like Nazis. |
One implies that N. Korea are like Nazis, the other implies N. Korea hates the US as if the US were Nazis. Or is it, N. Korea hates the US like Nazis hated the US, implying again the N. Koreans are like Nazis?
Which is the true translation?
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Translation?Posted: 22/11/05 17:52 | |
| | quoting the original: | | הוא אמר שבקוריאה הם כמו נאצים שונאים את האמריקאים |
I translated it as it sounds, but "J" is the native Hebrew-speaker, so I will defer to his understanding
Also, I see that I left out a line:
הוא אמר שהעולם שרוי כרגע במצב של דינים קשים מאוד, כ"כ קשים עד שאי אפשר לקלוט בשכל אנושי מה עומד לקרות בהמשך.
"He said that the world is immersed now in a state of very hard judgements, so hard that it is imposible to grasp intellectually what stands to happen next."
Where's Chasmal when you need him?
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| | Yaakov Nathan | Shlomo Eliyahu's AvatarPosted: 23/11/05 6:55 | |
| | quoting shlomoeliyahu: | | ***ALSO*** whats up with my avatar? It doesn't work! does it have to be .gif ??? cause this one is .jpg ... |
Jpegs are fine (my avatar is .jpg).
Try uploading your avatar again, perhaps that will fix it.
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| | shay. | Posted: 23/11/05 20:53 | |
| so if sharon will not win again than the man that win is the mashich?
אם שרון לא ינצח שוב פעם בבחירות אז האיש שכן יזכה הוא המשיח?
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: N.Korea hatred for the USPosted: 23/11/05 21:54 | |
| | quoting J: | | Quote: | | - Korea was mentioned. They hate the US like Nazis. |
This Hebrew news items says that N.Korea's official news agency compared today G.W.Bush to Hitler. |
What I find interesting about this is that we see that the only way that they can motivate the people to fight against the US of A ch'v is by convincing them that the US is totally evil. This shows that the average person in the Korean army wants to do the right thing (I.e. serve HaShem) so the only way they can get him to fight is by trying to convince him that this is the right thing to do.
www.moshiach.ca www.chabad.info
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| | noam | Posted: 23/11/05 21:55 | |
| | quoting shay.: | so if sharon will not win again than the man that win is the mashich?
אם שרון לא ינצח שוב פעם בבחירות אז האיש שכן יזכה הוא המשיח? |
I think this subject belongs on the election board topic. but anyway the answer is no way is that the case. but the mukubel from tusanami may talk about it after shabbath if daniel posts it.
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| | Aharon Benjamin | RE: Translation?Posted: 23/11/05 22:10 | |
| | quoting Yaakov Nathan: | | quoting the original: | | הוא אמר שבקוריאה הם כמו נאצים שונאים את האמריקאים |
I translated it as it sounds, but "J" is the native Hebrew-speaker, so I will defer to his understanding
Also, I see that I left out a line:
הוא אמר שהעולם שרוי כרגע במצב של דינים קשים מאוד, כ"כ קשים עד שאי אפשר לקלוט בשכל אנושי מה עומד לקרות בהמשך.
"He said that the world is immersed now in a state of very hard judgements, so hard that it is imposible to grasp intellectually what stands to happen next."
Where's Chasmal when you need him? |
| Quote: | | ...there is nothing that can stand in the way of teshuva, even to transform absolute din/judgement to chesed verachamim (kindness and compassion)... |
Lubavitcher Rebbe's Igrot Kodesh 8:339 http://otzar770.com/
www.moshiach.ca www.chabad.info
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| | shay. | Posted: 24/11/05 8:03 | |
| so we must whait until sabbat like noam said.
אז נחכה עד יום שבת בע"ה לעדכון של דניאל.
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| | noam | Posted: 27/11/05 1:31 | |
| are their any updates from daniel
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| | דניאל | Cheshvan 24:UpdatePosted: 27/11/05 2:36 | |
| (English follows Hebrew)
שלום,
לפי המקור שלי הרב דיבר היום בשיעור בעיקר על מערכת המשפט הגרועה שיש בישראל, אבל היו כמה דברים אחרים שהוא אמר.
קודם כל לגבי הבחירות, אז שאלו אותו המון שאלות לגבי הבחירות. הוא הזכיר שוב (לא הבנתי למה) את מה שהוא אמר לפני שבועיים להתפלל ולקרוא תהילים ואמר שלא הבינו אותו כמו שצריך, והוא לא התכוון שהיה אמור להיות אסון כמו שחשבו, הוא אמר רק שהיה אז זמן רצון לזה שיתבטלו הבחירות, ואמר על זה "והמבין יבין".
בכלליות הוא אמר שעדיין מאוד מוקדם לדבר על מה שיהיה בבחירות, אבל הוא אמר כמה דברים ואני מעביר מה שהועבר לי (אני אישית לא בטוח שצריך לראות את הדברים האלה על הבחירות כתחזיות): הוא אמר שבסופו של דבר זאת תהיה הבחירה של העם. הבחירה היא אם לבחור בתורה. זה דומה ל"מי לה' אלי" (לא ברור אם הוא התכוון לסיסמה של ש"ס). אבל הוא סייג שזה עדיין מוקדם לדבר על זה. הוא אמר שבע"ה הבחירות האלה יהיו הסוף של "מלכות הזלה" שמזלזלת בתלמידי חכמים, ושהתורה תעלה. שאלו עוד הרבה שאלות, והוא חזר ואמר שמוקדם מדי לדבר על זה.
בעניין הדבר ההוא שיחזיר את כל ישראל בתשובה, הוא אמר הפעם שזה יהיה איום קצר של משהו שיאיים על ישראל (או על כל העולם כולו), אבל הוא אמר בשם הגאון מוילנא שזה כנראה לא ייקח הרבה זמן, אולי איזה חצי שעה. אבל בסופו של דבר מהאיום הזה כל ישראל יחזרו בתשובה.
הוא הזכיר את ירושלים ואמר שמאז שרבין ("זה שנרצח") חתם על החזרתה של ירושלים, ירושלים למעשה "שבויה". הוא לא הרחיב.
אח"כ, בהקשר של הנושא של השיעור, הוא אמר שהרב נחמני נתן לו אישית סימן מיוחד לדעת מתי המשיח עומד לבוא. הרב נחמני אמר לו שכשהשופטים יפלו מהשלטון וכבר לא יהיו, אז זה הסימן האחרון לביאת המשיח וישר אחרי זה יבוא המשיח. הוא נתן לפי המקור שלי דוגמא (מעניינת...) לאיך זה יכול לקרות: שתהיה למשל מגיפה שרק השופטים ימותו ממנה, והשופטים "ילכו" אחד אחרי השני (אני חושב שזה מבוסס על מה שכתוב בתלמוד שהמשיח לא יבוא עד שיכלו שופטים ושוטרים מישראל).
ולסיום שאריות חשובות משבוע שעבר: המקור שלי גם אמר לי משהו שהוא שכח להגיד לי במוצ"ש הקודם. לגבי זה שירושלים תהיה בינלאומית, הרב אמר שאחרי שארה"ב והאו"ם יפקיעו את השליטה מישראל, אז דווקא הערבים (כנראה הפלסטינים אבל גם שאר הערבים) יתנגדו בכוח ויעשו הרבה צרות לאמריקאים, ויילחמו נגדם, כי הם לא יסכימו שנוצרים ישלטו בירושלים, אלא רק מוסלמים. הרב אמר שאנחנו (היהודים) נשב מהצד ולא נשתתף במה שיתפתח בין הנוצרים למוסלמים (כנראה זאת המלחמה שהזוהר מדבר עליה).
שבוע טוב ונהדר!
Shalom,
Accroding to my source, the Rav talked today in the lesson mainly on the bad judicial system in Israel, but there were some other things he said:
About the elections, he was asked many question about this. He mentioned again (I didn't understand why) what he said 2 weeks ago (to pray and read Tehilim) and said that he was misunderstood, and that he didn't mean that there's supposed to be a disaster, like people thought. He only said that it was a time of will to the cancelation of the elections, and said about it: "and he who has understading, will understand" (Vehamevin Yavin).
In general he said that it's still very early to talk about what will happen in the elections, but he said a few things and I'm passing what was passed to me (personally I'm not sure if we should see these words about the elections as predictions): he said that eventually this will be the choice of the people. The choice whether to choose Torah. It's similar to "מי לה' אלי" (not clear if he meant the Shas party slogan which is the same). He said that with HaShem's help these elections will be the end of "Malchut Hazala" that Mezalzelet (degrades?) Talmidey Chachamim, and that the Torah will go up. He was asked many other questions but he repeated that it's too early to talk about it.
About the thing that he said that will return all of Yisrael in Tshuva, he said this time that this will be a short threat of something that will threat Israel (or maybe the whole world), but he said in the name of the Gaon of Vilna that this probably won't take a lot of time, maybe about half an hour. But eventually, because of this threat, all of Yisrael will make Tshuva.
He mentioned Yerushalayim and said that since the time when Rabin ("he who was murdered") signed on the return of Yerushalayim, Yerushalayim is actually "captive". He didn't elaborate.
Afterwards, in the context of the lesson's subject, he said that Rav Nachmani gave him personally a special sign to know when Moshiach is about to come. Rav Nachmani told him that when the judges will fall from their power and won't be around anymore, this will be the last sign for the coming of Moshiach, and immediately afterwards Moshiach will come. According to my source he gave an (interesting...) example of how this may happen: for instance, that there will be a plague that only the judges will die from it, and the judges will be "gone" one after the other (I believe this is based on the Talmud).
Finally an important leftover from last week: my source also told me something that he forgot to tell me last time. About Jerusalem being internationalized, the Rav said that after the US and the UN will take the authority from Israel, the Arabs (probably the Palestinians but also the rest of the Arabs) themselves will resist forcefully and will make a lot of troubles to the Americans, and will fight against them, because they won't agree the christians will control Yerushalayim, only Moslems. The Rav said that we (the Jews) will sit from the side and won't take part in what will develop between the chrsitians and the Moslems (this is probably the war the the Zohar talks about).
Shavua Tov!
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| | שי | דניאל..Posted: 27/11/05 2:55 | |
| דניאל אחי היקר יש לי שאלה אלייך
תענה לי בכן או לא האם שמו הפרטי של הרב מתחיל באות א'
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| | yitchok duvid | DANIELPosted: 27/11/05 3:51 | |
| the part about something happening to the judges and the cheap goverment I understand because the gmara in shanhedrin also talks about it. but the part of hamavin yavin? about canceling the elections I didnt understand some insight please reb yacov
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| | Daber | not everything can (or should) be spelled outPosted: 27/11/05 11:32 | |
| There are things better left unsaid since there are listeners, and forces which would act to prevent any good coming to Am Yisrael if they have the chance.
Just think for yourself what could make elections unnecessary.
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| | yitchok duvid | RE: not everything can (or should) be spelled outPosted: 27/11/05 13:18 | |
| | quoting Daber: | There are things better left unsaid since there are listeners, and forces which would act to prevent any good coming to Am Yisrael if they have the chance.
Just think for yourself what could make elections unnecessary. |
un or u.s.a. take it over or mbd coming
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| | שוקי | the judges have already fallenPosted: 27/11/05 15:19 | |
| FWIW,
I have virtually no trust in the current justice system now as it is.
-a judge is caught fabricating minutes for sessions that never occured, and she is not immediately fired and disbarred with no compensation,
-sentencing for two years someone for wanting to burn a car on a highway who didn't even get to move the car,
-not caring to investigate policemen who've used unwarranted violence against unarmed civilians,
-supporting the police when they prevented buses in Kiryat Shemona (and all over the country) from travelling to Netivot, because of the change that the people might leave Netivot for illegal demonstrations,
-not pursuing the rampant corruption of Sharon and the entire government,
etc...
as it is the supreme court is a shrine to the illuminati.
read this article. Please note that it is written by a Jew for Yeshu, but after you get past the B.S of the first few paragraphs, he describes how the supreme court building is one massive sacrilegious edifice.
http://thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysnewsm...17&z=2
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| | yitchok duvid | judgesPosted: 27/11/05 16:01 | |
| I think thr rov meant kenesst members from the goverment also.they are our judges today.
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| | Daber | How so?Posted: 27/11/05 20:15 | |
| In what possible way are Knesset members judges?
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| | yitchok dovid | RE: How so?Posted: 27/11/05 23:23 | |
| | quoting Daber: | | In what possible way are Knesset members judges? |
because it says in shanhedrin bais vaad lchachmim yiha lbais znos which means ministers in govt. secondly I think the kenesset has the Final say in Isreal. thats what he also meant by malchus hazola. not saying the judges are good people in Isreal. just my opinion.
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| | J | RE: How so?Posted: 27/11/05 23:49 | |
| | quoting yitchok dovid: | | quoting Daber: | | In what possible way are Knesset members judges? |
because it says in shanhedrin bais vaad lchachmim yiha lbais znos which means ministers in govt. secondly I think the kenesset has the Final say in Isreal. thats what he also meant by malchus hazola. not saying the judges are good people in Isreal. just my opinion. |
In Israel, the High Court (Bagatz) is above all other authorities in the state. Judges cancel Knesset laws, canceled Govt. decisions etc. There is big crticism over the big involvment of Bagatz, and some call it "Judicial dictatorship".
Bagatz has the final say on almost anything in Israel, and his ruling are leftist and anti Jewish.
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| | yitchok duvid | RE: How so?Posted: 28/11/05 0:13 | |
| | quoting J: | | quoting yitchok dovid: | | quoting Daber: | | In what possible way are Knesset members judges? |
because it says in shanhedrin bais vaad lchachmim yiha lbais znos which means ministers in govt. secondly I think the kenesset has the Final say in Isreal. thats what he also meant by malchus hazola. not saying the judges are good people in Isreal. just my opinion. |
In Israel, the High Court (Bagatz) is above all other authorities in the state. Judges cancel Knesset laws, canceled Govt. decisions etc. There is big crticism over the big involvment of Bagatz, and some call it "Judicial dictatorship".
Bagatz has the final say on almost anything in Israel, and his ruling are leftist and anti Jewish. |
their is something in Isreal called okef bagatz and their are alot of talmidi chochmim today are saying openly that mulchus hazla is in fact the govt. in votes which the kenesst members wanted their way they got their way most of the time.
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| | noam | updatesPosted: 4/12/05 1:38 | |
| any updates daniel
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| | דניאל | Kislev 2 updatePosted: 4/12/05 2:56 | |
| (English follows Hebrew)
שלום,
לפי המקור שלי, הרב אמנם התרכז בשיעור בגמרא שמדברת על תקופת המשיח, אבל לא שיחרר הרבה פרטים חדשים, רק פרשנויות בעיקר, חוץ מפרט אחד מאוד מעניין: סימן מיוחד שהוא נתן כדי לדעת מתי המשיח באמת עומד להתגלות. זה פחות או יותר הדברים העיקריים שהוא אמר:
הוא דיבר על מסכת סנהדרין ששם כתוב על השער שנופל ונבנה כמה פעמים וכו', והוא לא מספיק להיבנות עד שבא המשיח, והוא אמר שלא מדובר בשער של רומי אלא בירושלים, אבל הוא לא הסביר מה.
לפני זה, כשהוא דיבר על הסיפור עם רבי יהושע שדיבר עם המשיח, אז הוא אמר שהוא בדק את הפרשנות לעומק, ומה שמדובר שם על השער של רומי זה לא מקום גשמי אלא מקום רוחני בלבד (כנראה הוא התכוון שזה לא רומז למיקום הגשמי שממנו יתגלה המשיח, כי שמעתי פרשנויות שאומרים שהוא יבוא מרומי).
לגבי "היום אם בקולו תשמעו" הוא אמר שזה יהיה סמוך לגאולה, ושזה לא רק בעניין של חזרה בתשובה, כמו הפשט, אלא זה יהיה מצב שכאילו הקב"ה יעביר אלינו קול בכי שלו כביכול, ואנחנו נשמע את הקול אבל הנשמה שלנו לא תפרח הפעם בניגוד למה שהיה בהר סיני - כי הפעם יש בינינו המון מחיצות והסתרות. לפי המקור שלי הוא לא הסביר יותר מזה.
אבל הדבר הכי חשוב, שכולם דיברו עליו כנראה אחרי השיעור, זה הסימן שהוא אמר שזה מה שיראה לנו שהמשיח ממש עומד להתגלות. הוא אמר שבשלב מסויים בניו יורק ייהרס פסל החירות (הוא לא הסביר איך זה יקרה, אם זה בטרור או משהו אחר) ואז נדע שהמשיח ממש תיכף יתגלה. הוא אפילו לא רמז איך זה יקרה.
את שאר הדברים פחות או יותר הוא כבר אמר בעבר, או שהם ידועים.
שבוע טוב ונהדר לכולם!
נ.ב.: שי, התשובה היא לא, אבל בוא לא נעשה מזה חידון
Shalom,
According to my source, although the Rav concentrated in the lesson on the Gemmorah that talks about Moshiach's time, he did not give much more detail, only commentaries, except one very interesting detail: a special sign that he gave in order for us to know when Moshiach is really about to be revealed. These are more or less the important details that he said:
He talked about Masechet Sanhedrin where it talks about the gate that falls and rebuilt a few times and so on, and before it will be rebuilt the last time Moshiach will come. He said that this is not the gate of Rome, it's Jerusalem, but he didn't explained exactly what it is.
Before that, when he talked about the story of Rabbi Yehosuah talking with Moshiach, he said that he checked the meaning deeply, and what's talked about there as the gate of Rome is not a material place, only a spiritual place (probably he meant that this does not imply the Gashmi placement where Moshiach will be revealed from, because I heard commentaries that say that he will come from Rome).
About "today if you'll hear his voice" (היום אם בקולו תשמעו), he said that this will happen close to the Geula, and that it's not only the matter of returning in Teshuva, but there will be a situation in which HaShem will pass to us a crying voice from Him כביכול, and we will hear the voice but our soul won't go away this time contrary to what was in Mt Sinay, because this time we have between us many barriers (מחיצות) and concealments. According to my source he did not explain more.
But the most important thing, was the sign that he said will show us that Moshiach is Mamash about to be revealed. He said that in a certain stage, in New York the statue of liberty will be destroyed (he didn't explain how this will happen, terrorism or something else), and then we would know that Moshiach is Mamash Techef will be revealed. But he didn't even imply how this will happen.
The rest of the things he already said before, or they are well known.
PS: yitchok duvid, my guess about "hamevin yavin" is almost as good as yours, and about your other post: he talked last time strictly on Israeli judges.
Shavua Tov!
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| | yitchok duvid | mukubalPosted: 4/12/05 6:45 | |
| is daniel talking about amnom yitchok the famous yeminite mukubal who has alot of people by his speeches also think it is time to ask the mukubal about where a jewish person should live right now in the time right before mosiach.
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| | Daber | possibilitiesPosted: 4/12/05 10:31 | |
| Consider this possibility for the destruction of the Statue of Liberty:
| Quote: | CANARY ISLANDS - CUMBRE VIEJA VOLCANO - "We may never know if we came close to Armageddon this Tuesday" when Tropical Storm Delta passed near La Palma, one of the Canary Islands off the coast of Africa. It's predicted that a future eruption there will drop a 500 billion ton chunk of rock into Atlantic waters. The initial splash will soar more than 3,000 feet high. Then the splash will form a "mega-tsunami" and ripple across the Atlantic faster than a jetliner.
The east coast of Florida and the United States will be nine hours away. Mountains of debris would be pushed 12 to 20 miles inland. All east coast cities would be obliterated. Fifty million people would die. The fear Monday was that Delta's rains might trigger an eruption. If the volcano burped a hot bubble of lava, water trapped in crevices would heat to steam and the steam pressure would create cracking, the scientists say. But heavy rains never came. Cumbre Vieja didn't even hiss as Delta passed many miles to its north.
Computer-generated, animated simulations of what will follow the Cumbre Vieja collapses. One map shows waves 160 feet high striking the Florida east coast. Although the Canary authorities are anxious to do all in their power to play the catastrophe scenario down, claiming such a slide is hypothetical and could take place a thousand or more years hence, in reality they are quietly beavering away behind the scenes, stepping up the vigilance on the mighty Cumbre Vieja. Perhaps the seriousness with which they regard the situation can be judged by two of the latest monitoring schemes to be implemented in the area which have been tellingly dubbed Alerta I and Alerta II.
The vigilance initiative includes the permanent location of three geochemical instrument stations. In the coming weeks and months two further hi-tech gadgets will be installed, described as hydrochemical stations to keep checks on the temperature, pH content and flow of subterranean water. A separate programme includes periodic scientific fact-finding missions to measure levels of carbon dioxide emissions and temperatures.
http://home.att.net/~thehessians/disasterwatch.html |
And note this:
"Eastward"...towards the northwest coast of Africa where the Canary Islands are located. Not that this is IT, but it just shows that something is somewhere waiting to happen just like Yam Suf was predestined to split before Bnei Yisrael.
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| | shlomoeliyahu | the judges are the erev rav that stole the role..Posted: 4/12/05 22:39 | |
| I think its really interesting that the supreme court in Israel controls all the decisions above everyone else. Its very sneaky! Everyone thinks the politicians have the final say, but quietly the supreme court decides all.
Does this sound like a corrupt version of anything to anyone??
It sounds similar to the how the Sanhedrin would ultimately decide the fate of large scale decisions for the Jews!!!
Putting things together.... One can say that from the 19th century with the starting of zionism, and the opposite which was lead by Rav Sonnenfeld, we had 2 possibilites to control Eretz Yisroel for the short time leading to the Redemption!!! It was a race, and the evil side took over as predicted by Yosef HaTzaddik that the famished cow would eat the healthy ones!! (this is from the article posted by Rav Nathan Yaakov on yiddishkeit.org by Rebbetzin Fastag or something??)
So right now we see that the 'pillar' of control which WOULD of been the Beis Din (as was proposed at the time -- read up on Yaakov Yisroel DeHaan) has been 'covered' by dirty klipot!
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW
So the religious zionists are confusing what could of been with what has become  Well now we must all grab each other and give a big hug!!!!! Cause there is nothing we can do except look up to Hashem and DAVEN DAVEN DAVEN!!!!!!!
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| | Ba Ba The Fluffy Sheep | I want Moshiach NOW!Posted: 6/12/05 20:13 | |
| Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshiach Moshaich Moshiach Moshiach
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| | davidh | please something new?Posted: 11/12/05 0:36 | |
| please Daniel don't forget us!!
we're waiting some news!!
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| | לדניאל היקר | בשורות טובותPosted: 11/12/05 2:02 | |
| שבוע טוב דניאל .
האם יש היום בשורות טובות
כולנו מצפים שתכתוב
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| | דניאל | Nothing new to report this timePosted: 11/12/05 2:11 | |
| According to my source, the Rav didn't say anything on Geulah matters today.
לפי המקור שלי הרב לא אמר כלום בענייני הגאולה היום.
Shavua Tov - שבוע טוב
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| | shay | אתם הורגים אותי...Posted: 11/12/05 2:12 | |
| למה אתם בלחץ כל כך מה יש אז הוא עוד לא כתב לא נורא כשהוא יתפנה הוא יכתוב.
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| | Daber | RE: Nothing new to report this timePosted: 11/12/05 17:39 | |
| | quoting דניאל: | According to my source, the Rav didn't say anything on Geulah matters today.
לפי המקור שלי הרב לא אמר כלום בענייני הגאולה היום.
Shavua Tov - שבוע טוב |
חבל...תודה רבה דניאל. שבוע טוב.
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| | Yochanan Shmuel Ha Levi | Any new news?Posted: 15/12/05 5:57 | |
| Shalom. Moshiach now.
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| | GershEULA | RE: Any new news?Posted: 15/12/05 6:08 | |
| | quoting Yochanan Shmuel Ha Levi: | | Shalom. Moshiach now. |
I think we're just going to have to wait till Chanukah and instead of hearing news, experiencing.
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| | דניאל | I can't post an update yetPosted: 18/12/05 2:00 | |
| I need to talk to my source first ...
Hopefully tomorrow night.
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| | א | תודה רבה דניאל, מחכים בקוצר רוח...Posted: 18/12/05 15:20 | |
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| | אורח חשוב | | | yitchok duvid | sharonPosted: 18/12/05 20:57 | |
| arik sharon taken to hospital
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| | רועי | אחריו יבוא משיחPosted: 18/12/05 21:13 | |
| הוא עדיין ישלוט ויחזור אחריו יבוא משיח
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| | shay | Posted: 18/12/05 21:53 | |
| מאיפה אתה כל כך בטוח?
האמת היא שאף אחד לא יודע מה יקרה בלי זלזול לכל הרבנים הקדושים רק השם יתברך מחליט!
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| | רועי | אמתPosted: 18/12/05 22:01 | |
| תחושת בטן
בע"ה יבוא משיח במהרה
כולם מצפים די לכל הסבל שסובל עם ישראל
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| | רועי | סוד השעון של בבא סאליPosted: 18/12/05 22:18 | |
| השם יעקב יהיה במלוי האות ואו
זוהי אות וו' כפולה שווה ל- 6+6=12
בע"ה יגיע תיכף ומיד
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| | devorah | Posted: 18/12/05 22:23 | |
| Should all Yakov's now spell their name with a Vav?
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| | דניאל | Not too much of an updatePosted: 19/12/05 1:38 | |
| This is the latest update from Shabat's lesson that I got from my source (there was no mention of Sharon this time):
1. The end of שעבוד מלכויות is one of the signs before the Moshiach's period. This has ended a few years ago when the Aliyah from Russia began, together with Aliyah from Syria (in Hebrew Russia and Syria are the same letters).
2. All the בירורים that needed to be finished before Moshiach were finished, except for a holy ניצוץ of Israel that is captured by impurity of the far east (mentioned specifically the Thai people), and this is the last Berur that needs to be finished. This is the reason that many people of the far east (specifically Thai people) are working now in Israel, so that this Berur would be faster, and this is the reason that we see them learning Hebrew very fast, and interfering with Jews in many ways (My source also told me that the Rav mentioned the far east impurity many times over the past months, talking about the very strong Tuma'a in the far east, and how every Jew that merely touches the grounds there, gets captured by Tuma'a in a way that is almost impossible to get back).
3. The holy Menorah that was made by Moshe Rabenu in the desert (not the one by Shlomo HaMelech) is hidden under the mount of olives (Har HaZeitim), and this is the true reason that it is called mount of olives, because of the Menorah that was lit with olive oil, and because some prophecy pictured the Menorah with olive branches. The Menorah will be revealed when the mountain will break in the earthquake that's described in the prophecies.
תקציר בעברית:
1. סוף שעבוד המלכויות הוא אחד הסימנים שלפני המשיח. שעבוד המלכויות הסתיים לפני כמה שנים כשהתחילה העלייה מרוסיה ביחד עם העלייה מסוריה (רוסיה, סוריה: אותן אותיות).
2. כל הבירורים שהיו צריכים להיעשות לפני בוא המשיח נגמרו חוץ מבירור אחד של ניצוצות קדושה השבויים בידי המזרח הרחוק (הוא הזכיר במיוחד את התאילנדים), וזה צריך להסתיים, וזאת הסיבה שיש הרבה עובדים זרים מהמזרח הרחוק ובמיוחד מתאילנד בישראל, כדי להחיש את הבירור, וזו הסיבה שהם לומדים עברית מהר ומתערבים באוכלוסיה בדרכים שונות (המקור שלי גם הזכיר שבהרבה שיעורים הרב מדבר על הטומאה הקשה שבמזרח הרחוק, ומסביר שהמצב שם כ"כ גרוע עד שברגע שיהודי דורך שם, הוא כבר נשבה בידי הטומאה בצורה כ"כ חזקה, שקשה מאוד להוציא אותו משם אח"כ).
3. מנורת הזהב שעשה משה במדבר (לא זאת שהכין שלמה המלך) נמצאת מתחת להר הזיתים, וזו הסיבה האמיתית שההר נקרא הר הזיתים, כי המנורה הודלקה בשמן זית וגם בנבואות היא מוזכרת עם ענפי זית. המנורה תתגלה כשהר הזיתים ייבקע, ברעידת האדמה שמוזכרת בנבואות.
ועכשיו, בלי קשר לשיעור בשבת האחרונה, נראה למקור שלי ולי די ברור שהשבץ הזה של שרון זה מה שדיבר עליו הרב לפני כמה שיעורים ובגלל זה הוא אמר "והמבין יבין", השאלה היא רק האם זה בכל זאת קרה, או שזה היה אמור להיות חמור יותר. אני שומע שיש שמועות שהמצב הרבה יותר חמור ממה שמנסים לתאר בעיתונות, ואם זה יעצור את שרון להיות ראש ממשלה, אז בטח זה דבר מאוד חשוב! הלוואי שכן! אני גם בטוח שהרב יהיה חייב להתייחס לזה בשיעור הבא בעזרת השם.
רק טוב שיהיה לכולנו, אמן!
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| | noam | danielPosted: 19/12/05 1:39 | |
| DANIEL IS GOING TO HAVE SOME BIG UPDATE TONIGHT
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| | Yaakov Nathan | לגבי: danielPosted: 19/12/05 2:25 | |
| | quoting noam: | | DANIEL IS GOING TO HAVE SOME BIG UPDATE TONIGHT |
Are you his spokesman?
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| | Yaakov Nathan | ReminderPosted: 19/12/05 2:31 | |
| Just a reminder of what was posted a month ago:
NOVEMBER 19
I begin with an explanation about last week's update (which referred to something Rav Kaduri might have said). The Rav explained it something like this: he said that it was "known" that if Sharon will not be re-elected then Moshiach will come. He said that last week was a moment of opportunity to receive something good from shomayim that would bring about Ariel Sharon's disappearance from the political map (he didn't give specific details), and we should daven and read tehillim for it to happen because this would be a very good thing. But because in the end it turned out that Sharon remained and continued to be involved in the elections, this indicates that from Shomayim they postponed this thing.
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| | shay | toYaakov NathanPosted: 19/12/05 3:35 | |
| אז יש עוד סיכוי שאריאל שרון לא יבחר ובמקומו יבוא המשיח?
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| | J | RE: toYaakov NathanPosted: 19/12/05 3:56 | |
| | quoting shay: | | אז יש עוד סיכוי שאריאל שרון לא יבחר ובמקומו יבוא המשיח? |
אי"ה אז יש סיכוי שעוד לפני הבחירות זה יהיה, בהנחה שמה שסיפרו לנו על זה ששרון אחרון נכון. כי אם שרון ייפסל להיות ראש ממשלה בגלל השבץ שהוא עבר (תלוי בחומרתו, ואת זה נדע בימים הקרובים), אז הוא יפסיק להיות ראש ממשלה עוד לפני הבחירות.
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| | Samuel | Translation please!Posted: 19/12/05 4:39 | |
| Isn't this the english forum... 
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| | devorah | Far eastPosted: 19/12/05 6:30 | |
| | Quote: | 2. All the בירורים that needed to be finished before Moshiach were finished, except for a holy ניצוץ of Israel that is captured by impurity of the far east (mentioned specifically the Thai people), and this is the last Berur that needs to be finished. This is the reason that many people of the far east (specifically Thai people) are working now in Israel, so that this Berur would be faster, and this is the reason that we see them learning Hebrew very fast, and interfering with Jews in many ways (My source also told me that the Rav mentioned the far east impurity many times over the past months, talking about the very strong Tuma'a in the far east, and how every Jew that merely touches the grounds there, gets captured by Tuma'a in a way that is almost impossible to get back).
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So.... why is there a Chabad House in Thailand????
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| | Elisheva | Chabad - Thailand? Yes indeedPosted: 19/12/05 6:50 | |
| Yes, there is Chabad Thailand. They seem to have expanded secondary to the Tsunami. There is a central one and a few others. Lots of Israeli kids go there to "visit".
http://www.jewishthailand.com/
| Quote: | Shabbat Candle Lighting Times - Bangkok, Thailand:
Friday, Dec. 23 Light Candles at: 5:38 PM Shabbat |
http://www.chabad.org/centers/default.asp?AID=9316
Chabad of Thailand
The shliach serves as Chief Rabbi of Thailand and is the local shochet. In addition, he has brought the full spectrum of Chabad-Lubavitch educational and outreach programs to Bangkok. An after-school Talmud Torah and adult education programs, as well as a restaurant and bakery are among the many services provided regularly to the country's Jewish community and to the many Jewish business people that visit Thailand. A center is active in Chang Mai as well.
http://www.chabad.org/centers/default.asp?AID=9431
Chabad-Lubavitch Centers in Thailand
Please select from the following cities:
Bangkok, Thailand - Bet Sefer Chabad Address: 221 Sukhumvit Soi 20, Bangkok, 10110 Thailand Phone: 66-2-258-3434 Fax: 66-2-258-4013 Rabbi David Haddad
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Chiang Mai, Thailand - Chabad of Bangkok - Ohr Menachem Address: 96 Ram Buttri Road Kaosarn Road, Bangalampoo Bangkok, 10200 Thailand Phone: 66-2-629-2770 Fax: 66-2-629-1153 Web: [url] www.JewishThailand.com[/url] Rabbi Nechemya Wilhelm
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Koh Samui, Surrattanni Thailand The Jewish Association of Thailand Address: 121 Soi Sai Nam Thip 2,
Sukhumvit Soi 22 Bangkok, 10110 Thailand Phone: 66-2-663-0244 Fax: 66-2-663-0245 Web: [url www.JewishThailand.com[/url] Rabbi Yosef C. Kantor
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| | J | RE: Far eastPosted: 19/12/05 7:37 | |
| | quoting devorah: | | Quote: | every Jew that merely touches the grounds there, gets captured by Tuma'a in a way that is almost impossible to get back
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So.... why is there a Chabad House in Thailand???? |
"שלוחי מצוה אינם ניזוקים"
(Those who are sent for doing a Mitzva, are not harmed)
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| | devorah | Far eastPosted: 19/12/05 8:55 | |
| It's unfortunate that Bangkok is the stop-over of choice for people flying to Israel, from Australia and New Zealand.
Jews stop there, do some shopping, maybe stay overnight, and then get back on the plane to fly to Israel.
Personally, Thailand has never been somewhere that I have wanted to visit.
And the smell there (so I'm told) is DREADFUL.. if a place smells bad, it's a good indication to stay away.
And then there are the Israelis.... as soon as they get out of the army, they head for Thailand, and then perhaps on to Australia.
Thailand is THE place to go if you are an Israeli teenager.
Maybe the Chabad rep. in Thailand should put his Chabad House at the airport and force all the Israeli's back on to the plane.
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| | D/S' | הרב עובדיהPosted: 19/12/05 10:09 | |
| הרב עובדיה מתנצל: "אני מאחל לראש הממשלה אריכות ימים ושנים"
אתמול איחל הרב עובדיה לשרון ש"יקבל מכה בראש מהקב"ה" בדרשה שנשא. כעת הוא מתנצל ומסביר "אני מתפלל בכל ליבי שיחזור בו מההתנתקות"
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אבישי בן-חיים
9/3/2005 19:01
כמעט יממה לאחר הדרשה הפרובוקטיבית בה איחל הרב עובדיה לראש הממשלה ש"יקבל מכה וימות", מתנצל מנהיגה הרוחני של ש"ס על דבריו. הרב עובדיה הבהיר" "אני מאחל לראש הממשלה אריכות ימים ושנים".
בפגישה שקיים אחר הצהריים הרב עובדיה עם יו"ר ש"ס, אלי ישי, ביקש הרב להעביר מסר של פיוס וניסה להסביר את דבריו מאתמול, שעוררו סערה.
"הצטערתי מאוד לשמוע על הפרשנויות שנאמרו כאילו איחלתי לראש הממשלה לקיצור ימיו. אמרתי שאין לאדם לבטוח בעצמו לבצע דבר בקרב ימים, כי מה הוא האדם? יכול יום אחד לעלות
על יצועיו ולא יקום חס וחלילה".
לאחר שאיחל לשרון לקבל "באנה" בראש תיקן היום הרב: "אני מאחל לראש הממשלה אריכות ימים ושנים, אולם אני מתפלל בכל לבי שראש הממשלה שלנו אריאל שרון יזכהו ה' בחכמה בינה ודעת שיחזור בו מן ההתנתקות החד צדדית ועיניו תחזינה בשלוות ישראל ושב יעקב ושקט ושאנן ואין מחריד".
"'באנה' בראש"
בדרשה בבית הכנסת "יחווה דעת" שבהר נוף תקף אתמול מנהיגה הרוחני של ש"ס בחריפות יוצאת דופן את "יוזם תוכנית ההתנתקות" ויצא להגנת מתנחלי גוש-קטיף.
בתחילת הדרשה התייחס הרב יוסף לחג הפורים המתקרב, לגזירות המן הרשע ואחשוורוש ולעובדה שהקב"ה לא סייע לעם ישראל. "באה צרה על ישראל, והקב"ה מכסה את עצמו כמו עני", אמר הרב, "איפה הקב"ה? איך שותק להם? על המקום ייתן להם טיל אחד על הראש - ועל המקום יישרפו. למה שותק להם?". לא מדובר, כמובן, בשאלות כפירה, ולרב היתה תשובה חד משמעית אליהן - כאשר עם ישראל "דלים מהתורה והמצוות, כביכול שומע הקב"ה ושותק".
הרב המשיך בהקבלה אקטואלית בין מגילת אסתר לתוכנית ההתנתקות: "מה עשו גזירות על חבל קטיף, מה שעושים להם. אנשים שבנו ביתם בזיעת אפם, שנים על גבי שנים. דור שני, דור שלישי, יבואו תיכף, ינתקו אותם, יקחו אותם וייתנו את הבתים לערבים. איזה בתי מדרש יפים יש שם, איזה בתי כנסת יפים יש שם, איזה בתים נפלאים יש שם. את הכל ימסור לערבים".
מיד אחר כך המשיך הרב בדרשה ואמר במה שנשמע כרמז לראש הממשלה, אריאל שרון: "איזה אכזר הרשע הזה, שהוא עושה דברים כאלה. הקב"ה רוצה שאנחנו נחזור כולנו לתורה, ואז ייתן לו 'באנה' אחת - ימות. יישן ולא יקום... זה שהוא מתאכזר על עם ישראל, מתאכזר".
הרב עובדיה הסביר גם את התנגדותו למשאל עם. לדבריו, בעלי הבתים (האנשים הפשוטים) לא יידעו איך להצביע: "זה של המערך יאמר 'תצביעו בעד ההתנתקות'. יבואו אנשי הליכוד חלקם הגדול יגידו 'תצביעו' (בעד). ושינוי - אוי ואבוי להם, שונאי ישראל אלה. יצביעו ודאי בעד ההתנתקות. מה אכפת להם? ואחר כך קולות של הערבים! הם יכריעו את הכף לגרש ישראל ממקומם? רק הקב"ה יכול להושיע אותנו, עד הרגע האחרון".
"הכוונה היא שההתנתקות תמות"
לסיום פנה הרב למאזיניו וביקש: "אסור להתייאש, נתפלל לקב"ה וכל אלה (המתנחלים) יישארו על מקומם. מה האכזריות הזאת לגרש את היהודים שלנו ולהכניס ערבים? בשביל מה? על מה? הקב"ה ייתן לו מכה אחת שלא יקום".
מקורבים לרב יוסף אמרו כי בימים האחרונים פקדו את ביתו נציגי המתנחלים, שהעלו בפניו את כאב עקירתם מבתיהם, וכי הרב התרגש עד דמעות מדבריהם. אתמול, שעה קלה לפני הדרשה, נועד הרב עם שניים מהחשובים שברבני יש"ע - הרב זלמן מלמד והרב אליקים לבנון.
לאחרונה התבטא הרב עובדיה בכמה הזדמנויות נגד אלימות, וקרא לנהל את המאבק בהתנתקות ללא הסתה. בכירים בש"ס אמרו אמש כי ברור שהרב עובדיה לא מייחל למותו של ראש הממשלה אריאל שרון.
יו"ר ש"ס, ח"כ אלי ישי, מיהר להבהיר: "הרב עובדיה, גם בדבריו אתמול, בעצם הדגיש שאף אחד לא רשאי להרים יד ולקחת את הדברים לידיים, אלא השם הוא ממית והוא מחיה, והכל בידי שמיים. הוא אומר לציבור: אתם אל תרימו ידיים, והקב"ה הוא קובע. בכל מקרה, הכוונה היא שרעיון ההתנתקות הוא שימות".
התגובות לדברים במערכת הפוליטית לא איחרו לבוא. סגנית השר אורית נוקד (העבודה) קראה ליועץ המשפטי לממשלה, מני מזוז, לפתוח בחקירה פלילית נגד הרב עובדיה יוסף, בגין הסתה. ''בתקופה כה רגישה, רשויות אכיפת החוק חייבות להחמיר בהתייחסות לדברי הסתה, במיוחד מצד אישי ציבור'', אמרה נוקד.
ח''כ חמי דורון (שינוי) אמר בתגובה: ''לשונו העסיסית של הרב עובדיה היא לשון מסוכנת, שעלולה להכניס רעיונות מוזרים ומסוכנים לראשם של אנשים, שאינם מבינים את השנינות שבה''.
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| | rivka | הרב עובדיה rePosted: 19/12/05 10:26 | |
| bs'd
one more time for the dummies 
(in english that is)
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| | devorah | Floods in ThailandPosted: 19/12/05 11:07 | |
| BANGKOK, Dec. 15 (Xinhuanet) -- Continuing floods in the Thailand's southern provinces of Pattani and Songkhla forced nearly 70 schools in the two provinces to close, according to the Thai News Agency Thursday.
After heavy downpours Wednesday night, water levels in the Pattani River rose and flooded low-lying areas. Provincial authorities evacuated persons at risk areas to higher ground. Some20 schools were forced to close temporarily.
Traffic on Phiphit road, the towns street, was congested, whilemany roads in the municipality are impassable, either submerged orblocked by debris.
In Nongjik district, local residents moved their belongings to higher ground and built sandbag embankments to prevent flooding.
In Songkhla province, incessant rain over the past two days caused flash floods, particularly in the area near Songkhla lake. 50 schools in five districts have been closed for a week due to the third round of flooding there. Damages incurred in earlier flooding is estimated at more than 700 million baht (17.5 million US dollars). Enditem
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-12/15/content_3926623.htm
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| | דניאל | Sorry, no update this timePosted: 24/12/05 23:00 | |
| My source arrived late today to the lesson because of the weather, and in the part that he attended there was no update.
Happy Chanukah and Shavua Tov
המקור שלי הגיע מאוחר היום לשיעור בגלל מזג האויר, ובחלק שהוא שמע מהשיעור לא היה שום עדכון.
חג חנוכה שמח ושבוע טוב.
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| | shay | Posted: 24/12/05 23:16 | |
| יש סיכוי שבחלק שהוא החמיץ היה משהו שהרב אמר?
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| | שי | דניאל שבוע טובPosted: 31/12/05 18:03 | |
| דניאל שבוע טוב וחג שמח
האם יש בשורות טובות ?
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| | I am here now. | NiPosted: 31/12/05 20:11 | |
| Ni
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| | ע | דניאל, איפה אתה?Posted: 1/1/06 1:58 | |
| בבקשה עדכן אותנו, האם יש חדש?
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| | דניאל | Kislev 30 Not much of an updatePosted: 1/1/06 2:17 | |
| This is the info that I got from my source about today's lesson:
The Moslems are Metam'im the place of Beit HaMikdash with their mosques. The xtians weren't "wise" enough to take that place, so instead they put all their churches arround it, to LeTame this place as much as possible.
Tum'ah today in our generation is much worse than the Tum'ah that was in Egypt... This generation is heavily deep inside the Tum'ah.
In the first Geula, HaShem went down Himself to redeem the people of Israel, because there was such big Tum'ah, that the angels could not approach. So, Kal VaChomer that this will also be in the last Geula, where there will be a lot more Tum'ah: Although Moslems and Xtains are trying to LeTame as much as possible, but then HaShem will make in a few seconds a very powerful earthquake, that will rip all the Mount of Olives, and all the churches and mosques will be lost.
It is written that in the future pure waters will pour from Yerushalayim, a stream of water. The Rav said that actually the water are coming out already (if you remember, he already said this, and I reported this a few months ago). The Rav went a few times to pray in the Beit Knesset in the Kotel, and he managed to see from the inside how pure water are pouring from the Kotel. Once he prayed there and saw that there is really a lot of water, and it created something like a small "stream", but the Moslems are taking care of closing this all the time. In the Geula a river of water will flow from there, and these waters will be like the water of Be'er Miryam. People will drink from it, and will be cured even from the most awful diseases only by drinking one cup from these water! Someone asked "what? the Arabs will drink these water and get cured?", and the Rav laughed and said: "don't worry, these are things that HaShem makes only for the people of Israel"...
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